Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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When the price of gas gets up to $6.00 in a couple of years you'll be looking for a horse or an ev. I've already got the horse I just need a buggy.
Our local Lowe's store actually has a hitching Post for the Amish horses and carriages and wagons. It may be surprising who gets the last laugh.

$6.00 is meaningless if the gas station tanks are empty. I read today they are putting more drilling rigs back out in the oil patch.

At least EVS require less computer chips than the internal combustion engine vehicles.
 
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This thread has gotten as useful as the guy who installs blinkers on BMWs.
 
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The power of fossil fuel.
 
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This thread has gotten as useful as the guy who installs blinkers on BMWs.
His life work is meaningful only when the BMW owner uses the turn signal?
 
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I expect that is correct but I think a lot of people even in the United States do not understand the level of poverty in the United states. We are stuck with fossil fuel at some level for at least the next 50 years.

I have owned one new vehicle and that was a 1973 Datsun 1200 and we got 200,000 miles out of it. I'm very proud of our 2016 Nissan Leaf and it's okay for a short trip. A used Tesla Model 3 is going to cost close to the price of new relatively speaking.

In my case it's 50 mi drive to get to the closest charger low speed or high speed. If I didn't have 240 volts out to the driveway an EV just would not make sense for us so charging at home is basically a requirement.

I am for stopping all pollution but I don't see financial resources there that is going to enable that anytime soon. I expect when I die I will still have diesel tractors to pass down to the family.
I always thought people woke up too late. One of the biggest industrial CO2 sources is cooking portland cement out of limestone. You can't use an induction furnace for that, and arc furnaces are expensive to run. Their goal of limiting global temperature rise to 2.5 degrees C is a fantasy.

If they electrify all rail and build high speed rail lines to eliminate short hop air travel, move distance hauling back onto rails, and raise a whole lot of oil seeds, they might be able to run the remnants on biodiesel. If that happens within 50 years, I'll be dead, so will leave it to the young guys to be astonished. Not in my lifetime.

I don't think people have any concept of how much fossil fuel we use. I have seen the coal trains from 35,000 feet, stretching from horizon to horizon. They have mined whole mountain ranges in Wyoming and shipped it to Chicago. Rail couldn't keep up with the oil shipments, so they squirt it through pipelines and to * with the friction losses.

We don't have a good record at avoiding future problems, and we really don't have a good record of a coherent century-long project to save civilization. I doubt nagging people will get us there.

I see electric vehicles as a survivalist tool. If our oil production system gets interrupted, an ICE will be yard art, while there may be some way to charge an EV from local generating capacity. I agree that convenient home access to a 240v. receptacle will be the "required accessory" for EV ownership. Until our whole energy infrastructure gets rebuilt, driving an EV will make very little difference in our fossil fuel usage.

 
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If I didn't have 240 volts out to the driveway an EV just would not make sense for us so charging at home is basically a requirement.
I would like to see welding supply stores encourage each customer to offer EV charging, in cases where it would be convenient. Maybe just a 240v outlet on the outside of the building. Any shop that includes welding in the services they offer would have the heavy wiring, and some might make this service a sideline. The welding supply stores could make a little money on this new line of products.

Also - remote ranches might make this a sideline when there are no other public chargers for miles around. US-395 down the Eastern (desert) edge of California has nothing for many miles. After reading that, it occurred to me that pulling into one of the remote ranches near the highway might be the only alternative to a very expensive flatbed tow.

In both cases - welding shops and remote ranches - listing their service on the public lists of chargers that EV owners refer to, might be a new revenue opportunity.

Think outside the box ....
 
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