How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete?

[Redbug]

Thanks for posting that DieselBound. Good points and I am digesting the links...

 

[Snobdds]

Interesting announcement considering Microsoft has a giant data center here.

'Future of energy is here': Wyoming to host nation's first Natrium nuclear reactor - Cheyenne, WY Cap City News

CHEYENNE, Wyo.— Wyoming will be home to the first “Natrium” nuclear reactor. The Cowboy State has been selected by TerraPower and PacifiCorp for the

capcity.news

 

[MechanicalGuy]

I’m gonna go with “never”.

 

[pmmully]

Let me know if this is the wrong place to put this, but IMHO, the advantages of electric powered tractors in the smaller sizes (under, say, 100hp) will be so massive that even though cars are ahead in the development, new small electric tractors will begin taking over the market somewhere around 2025, and by 2030, they will have made diesels in the under 60 hp class obsolete, for the following reasons:
1. Diesel engines and the various transmissions are extremely expensive to design and produce compared to electric drive trains.
2. The limitation on continuous use of electric tractors - probably 4 hours or so at a clip before requiring recharge, on the lower priced machines won't be a problem to most small tractor owners. For those for whom it is a problem, more batteries can be put in the tractor.
3. No more lugging and pouring cans of diesel is not a nothing-burger.
4. The problem of battery weight in cars is an advantage in most tractors, as it can increase both traction and stability if properly situated.
5. Lower maintenance costs and full control of speed without many gallons of hydro oil for locomotion.
6. In tractors with loaders, portable supplemental battery packs could potentially charged while the tractor is working, and added to the loader when using PTO implements, or carried on the 3pt. when doing loader work.
7. CUTs are not really screamingly noisy but the electric tractors' quiet will be appreciated.
8. Prices will be competitive with diesels by 2025 and will be significantly less expensive than diesels by 2030.
9. An electric tractor charged from home solar or wind will appeal to the "independent" types, like most of us here.
10. If made properly, repairs to an Electric Tractor should be much easier and require much less technical knowledge than compact diesels.

Disclaimer: I am invested in electric vehicles, electric tractors and solar panel makers.

Once all the tree huggers figure out how dirty it is to mine and dispose of lithium we will be in a quandary. Then add in the civil rights to mining it and all sorts of things will happen. We are number 8 on the world list for lithium reserves.

Plus, the electric grid in the US is not equipped to have a gazillion people plug in for a charge, you will see rolling brown-outs.

 

[bmaverick]

I say EV takes too much resources to juice things up.

I like things powered by HOT AIR.

MDI and Tata have at least five different air-powered vehicles in the pipeline. Some of them run on only compressed air. This requires the vehicle to have a large carbon-fibre air tank that can store compressed air and gives it an operational range of 200 km. The engine is a light-weight aluminium two-cylinder or four-cylinder engine that uses air to drive the pistons instead of petrol.

Tata Nano air car launch possible in India, Tata Motors compressed air cars

With so many politicians blowing enough HOT AIR, all of our energy needs would be SOLVED.

The Tata Nano Car has already seen some production.
Tata Nano review | Autocar

Being the cheapest doesn't necessarily make it the worst and for £1700 the Tata Nano is unbelievable value. It's a one-box saloon, as short and narrow as an original Mini, but more than a foot taller, with its steel monocoque body mated to a tough spaceframe.

Bigger than a Mini-Cooper and uses NO petrol. Less parts than a 2-cly diesel even.


Even the AMISH use compressed air systems for power. It takes a 4-horse team to pull the weights via cables up a few stories. Then the chains are clipped onto the weights to apply pressure into the pneumatic system. 2X a day is all that is needed for the horses to hook up, lift the weights and then back to pasture. An entire wood cabinet facility is then cutting for the day.

 

[Snobdds]

Hydrogen fuel cells make more sense than Batteries.

Toyota has invested a lot more into hydrogen tech than trying to invent a energy denser battery.

 

[MossRoad]

I say EV takes too much resources to juice things up.

I like things powered by HOT AIR.

Well, here you go, then...

 

[PuffyC]

Even the AMISH use compressed air systems for power. It takes a 4-horse team to pull the weights via cables up a few stories. Then the chains are clipped onto the weights to apply pressure into the pneumatic system. 2X a day is all that is needed for the horses to hook up, lift the weights and then back to pasture. An entire wood cabinet facility is then cutting for the day.

But then you have to haul those horses around so you can fill up on your cross country road trip and that has to really cut your range.

 

[MoKelly]

Ford announced they have 70,000 orders for the new electric F-150. That compares to about 800,000 gas F-150’s sold in a year.

MoKelly

 

[MechanicalGuy]

Ford announced they have 70,000 orders for the new electric F-150. That compares to about 800,000 gas F-150’s sold in a year.

MoKelly

“Orders”

lol