Is it just me?

[s219]

I wouldn't drive out of the way for Chick-Fil-A, but I do like their sandwiches and my daughter likes their nuggets and fries. It's about the only fast food place I frequent anymore. They run a really tight ship and I admire their business standards. Always more than enough employees who are on top of things and provide great service. Nice clean restaurants and restrooms.

The owners have some strict religious views which occasionally piss off my wife and god forbid if she ever decides to boycott them, I'll probably have to sneak out to get a chicken sandwich. I'd really rather not know anything about the religion or politics of a restaurant, I am just there for the food and to make a business transaction.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

It’s not that chick FIL a is strict, it’s that others try to push their philanthropy side to donate to choices they don’t agree with. Would you like to be forced to donate to causes you don’t agree with? I don’t.
They are actually being accused of being too left leaning by some conservatives, for what that’s worth.

Their breakfast is really good also. Just wish they would bring back the cole slaw.

 

[TMGT]

It’s not that chick FIL a is strict, it’s that others try to push their philanthropy side to donate to choices they don’t agree with. Would you like to be forced to donate to causes you don’t agree with? I don’t.
They are actually being accused of being too left leaning by some conservatives, for what that’s worth.

Their breakfast is really good also. Just wish they would bring back the cole slaw.

Agree, I do miss their cole slaw also, the mac and cheese is pretty good though.

I've have noticed some changes since the founder passed away, some good, some i don't like that much.

It's funny that people get all wound up about the religious side of Chick-fil-A, never felt like they were pushing anything at their restaurants and I've never seen any discrimination of their employees or customers based on their locations around me.

 

[Sigarms]

I wouldn't drive out of the way for Chick-Fil-A, but I do like their sandwiches and my daughter likes their nuggets and fries. It's about the only fast food place I frequent anymore. They run a really tight ship and I admire their business standards. Always more than enough employees who are on top of things and provide great service. Nice clean restaurants and restrooms.

The owners have some strict religious views which occasionally piss off my wife and god forbid if she ever decides to boycott them, I'll probably have to sneak out to get a chicken sandwich. I'd really rather not know anything about the religion or politics of a restaurant, I am just there for the food and to make a business transaction.

I like them for food (it's fast food, come on) and fast and friendly service.

My one 16 year is looking for a raise from his diswashing job, and I'd like him to work there if doesn't find anything else. I know in my area, they start kids off at $13, and I sincerely think the service and attitude reflects the employees.

Although the owners are religious (God forbid not working on Sundays LOL), and although I've never met the owners, I first came across the owner as I laid in a burn unit. The owner (Dan Cathy) wrote a book on his experiences when he was in a burn unit himself due to a pile of brush he was burning himself on his property. Good book from what I remember. Reading up more on the man, I sincerely think the news plays it up. He genuinely seems like a nice man and after the whole blow up about his statements in the past, the reality is he actually seemed to become good friends with who the press played as he despised due to his religious views. He honestly doesn't come across as a nut case IMO.

 

[MossRoad]

Hence the term rust belt I assume.

MoKelly

No.

"The Rust Belt is a region of the Northeastern and Midwestern United States that has been experiencing industrial decline starting around 1980. It is made up largely of the Great Lakes Megalopolis, though definitions vary. Rust refers to the deindustrialization, economic decline, population loss, and urban decay due to the shrinking of its once-powerful industrial sector, such as steel production, automobile manufacturing, and coal mining. The term gained popularity in the U.S. in the 1980s,[1] when it was commonly contrasted with the Sun Belt which was surging then."

From here:

Rust Belt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Sigarms]

Popeyes does nothing for me. Don’t even consider going there.

I've always wanted to compare their spicy chicken sandwhich to a CFA spicy chicken sandwhich.

I don't have a popeyes close to me, and the only one in town seems to have lines move pretty slow and my wife will tell you even when we were dating, I don't do long lines and wait.

Last year I ended up doing some work in Myrtle Beach, but only in the mornings (There was a popeyes coming into Myrtle). Drive is about 3.5 hours, and that's the drive time lenngth where I'd rather leave at 0400 then go to a hotel the night before and not be able to fall asleep until 0200 because the wife isn't with me. Only took me a couple of hours being there in the morning and then I could drive home.

Twice, I left too early and popeyes wasn't open yet for lunch.

Third time I planned it where I'd be coming back by the restaurant right around 11 when they opened up and I could finally try my spicy chicken comparison. Pulled into popeyes right around 11:15 with 3 cars in front of me at the drive through. No word of a lie, after about 15 mintues of no one moving, the car in front of me drove off and now I'm the second car in line. I waited another 5 minutes and I said screw it, it's not worth is as I still have to drive home.

There is a CFA up the street from popeyes, pulled in a long line at around 11:25, and with a bunch of cars in front of me, I had my lunch no later than 10 minutes.

CFA just has their act together with the drive through with getting people in and out fast IMO. When you think about it, more money in their pocket. Everyone seems to work efficient at a CFA and the people behind the counter actually seem to go out of their way to be nice. I can't help but think that's hard to do in the fast food business.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Do you remember that everything in Gary was stained orange from the steel mills? Houses, buildings, telephone poles, heck, even the wires were orange from the pollution. It was an absolute hell hole, as far as environmental goes.

I remember the smell. Now where I grew up, Milwaukee Wi, had quite a smell......hops from the beer.

Not pleasant in that volume!

 

[Frankenkubota]

Agree, I do miss their cole slaw also, the mac and cheese is pretty good though.

I've have noticed some changes since the founder passed away, some good, some i don't like that much.

It's funny that people get all wound up about the religious side of Chick-fil-A, never felt like they were pushing anything at their restaurants and I've never seen any discrimination of their employees or customers based on their locations around me.

As i previously mentioned, i applied for a chick fillet franchise a long time ago and was rejected.

And while they didn't come right out and ask, they were fishing for some signs....one way or the other.

I'm not a religious person and i believe that had a lot to do with their decision.

I bought into a different franchise and luckily got out before too much damage was done.

I never go to CF but i will say, based on the way the seem to handle their drive thru, they should be running the virus deal!

 

[Sigarms]

As i previously mentioned, i applied for a chick fillet franchise a long time ago and was rejected.

And while they didn't come right out and ask, they were fishing for some signs....one way or the other.

I'm not a religious person and i believe that had a lot to do with their decision.

The issue was you couldn't lie like a Southern Baptist (just joking as anyone can lie)

I know some religious guys in my own industry because they let you know it. Ironcially enough, apparently there is nothing in the Bible about paying your bills. That said, there are some good men I know as well who are pretty religious and you would never know it without actually getting to know them as a person.

I was up in Lynchburg on a job with a project manager. We ate at an "old peoples seafood place" (as I call them) for lunch. I'm at the table, say a quick unnoticed prayer and start to eat as this other guy I was with was coming back to the table with his food. He comes to the table, sits, bows his head on his hands in prayer, and says this minute long prayer out loud. Nothing wrong with that, been there done that. BUT...once the guy gets done saying his prayer, he looks up at me and starts rheeming one of his employees out to me using every curse word in the book. I was like dang, 0 to 60 in a second flat.

Off topic, but the subject got me going LOL

 

[Hay Dude]

No.

"The Rust Belt is a region of the Northeastern and Midwestern United States that has been experiencing industrial decline starting around 1980. It is made up largely of the Great Lakes Megalopolis, though definitions vary. Rust refers to the deindustrialization, economic decline, population loss, and urban decay due to the shrinking of its once-powerful industrial sector, such as steel production, automobile manufacturing, and coal mining. The term gained popularity in the U.S. in the 1980s,[1] when it was commonly contrasted with the Sun Belt which was surging then."

From here:

Rust Belt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am in the worst part of the rust belt (>58% job loss). Its like Bosnia in the run down parts.
I wonder if and hope it'll make a comeback before I take my dirt nap.
Kinda doubt it....

 

[MoKelly]

No.

"The Rust Belt is a region of the Northeastern and Midwestern United States that has been experiencing industrial decline starting around 1980. It is made up largely of the Great Lakes Megalopolis, though definitions vary. Rust refers to the deindustrialization, economic decline, population loss, and urban decay due to the shrinking of its once-powerful industrial sector, such as steel production, automobile manufacturing, and coal mining. The term gained popularity in the U.S. in the 1980s,[1] when it was commonly contrasted with the Sun Belt which was surging then."

From here:

Rust Belt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks. Learn something new everyday.

MoKelly

 

[Frankenkubota]

The issue was you couldn't lie like a Southern Baptist (just joking as anyone can lie)

I know some religious guys in my own industry because they let you know it. Ironcially enough, apparently there is nothing in the Bible about paying your bills. That said, there are some good men I know as well who are pretty religious and you would never know it without actually getting to know them as a person.

I was up in Lynchburg on a job with a project manager. We ate at an "old peoples seafood place" (as I call them) for lunch. I'm at the table, say a quick unnoticed prayer and start to eat as this other guy I was with was coming back to the table with his food. He comes to the table, sits, bows his head on his hands in prayer, and says this minute long prayer out loud. Nothing wrong with that, been there done that. BUT...once the guy gets done saying his prayer, he looks up at me and starts rheeming one of his employees out to me using every curse word in the book. I was like dang, 0 to 60 in a second flat.

Off topic, but the subject got me going LOL

I spent a ton of time in Lynchburg, GE had a big radio plant there.

This is the truth. They hired a young engineer from England, might have been in the 80s. He was very good but didn't last long. We were out somewhere eating lunch and he was on his 3rd beer. There were 3-4 GE guys and me, always very very informal.

Jerry Farwell walked in with his group and the english guy started yelling....i been saved...i been saved! He jumped up on his chair and continued!

It was harmless and he got away with it i guess because of his strong english accent. It was a hoot.

We left.

 

[Sigarms]

Doing work for Liberty University is worse than dealing with the state schools procurment offices. At least with the state, you know you're going to get paid. With Liberty university, better get half your money up front or they'll rope you into indentured work for you to get paid for a job you did 6 months ago.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Doing work for Liberty University is worse than dealing with the state schools procurment offices. At least with the state, you know you're going to get paid. With Liberty university, better get half your money up front or they'll rope you into indentured work for you to get paid for a job 6 months ago.

OK, I admit it. One of my Lynchburg customers mentioned Liberty College. Back in the day it was a college. I think the difference is a University can award PHds....or something.

My customer had mentioned Liberty so I responded with the standard response......oh, you mean lobotomy college?

To that he said, my daughter is a sophomore there.

Open mouth, insert foot.

 

[Hay Dude]

Its a slippery slope when we take a group, whether religious, race, color, creed, nationality and say they dont pay on time, bad to work for, bad parents, etc.
For example, I was told by some uninformed people that Jewish people are cheap, resist paying, etc. I built a monster garage, house addition and porch for a Jewish couple in my neighborhood and they are probably the kindest, most cooperative, fastest paying people I ever worked for. We remain friends for life. I now snowplow their driveway and my kids house sit for them when they vacation.

Old rumors and reputation, deserved or not, die hard.

 

[Hay Dude]

OK, I admit it. One of my Lynchburg customers mentioned Liberty College. Back in the day it was a college. I think the difference is a University can award PHds....or something.

My customer had mentioned Liberty so I responded with the standard response......oh, you mean lobotomy college?

To that he said, my daughter is a sophomore there.

Open mouth, insert foot.

I prayed every day my daughter would get into Liberty to play womens field hockey. Her club teammate got in, but my daughter didnt. She goes to a different indoctrination facility.

 

[MoKelly]

I prayed every day my daughter would get into Liberty to play womens field hockey. Her club teammate got in, but my daughter didnt. She goes to a different indoctrination facility.

I did some tennis officiating for Liberty a few years ago.

Players were nice, coach was respectful and they paid on time.

Nothing different from any other university.

MoKelly

 

[Sigarms]

I did some tennis officiating for Liberty a few years ago.

Players were nice, coach was respectful and they paid on time.

Nothing different from any other university.

MoKelly

When a job should be bonded because the total job cost is for a crap load of money that could leave someone hanging, you may find that the university feels a bond is not required because they are in good standing with the community and if you want the work, you do it on their terms instead of CYA.

I'm also guessing they don't pay anywhere between 20k to 2 million to officiate for a tennis match?

 

[Sigarms]

Its a slippery slope when we take a group, whether religious, race, color, creed, nationality and say they dont pay on time, bad to work for, bad parents, etc.
For example, I was told by some uninformed people that Jewish people are cheap, resist paying, etc. I built a monster garage, house addition and porch for a Jewish couple in my neighborhood and they are probably the kindest, most cooperative, fastest paying people I ever worked for. We remain friends for life. I now snowplow their driveway and my kids house sit for them when they vacation.

Old rumors and reputation, deserved or not, die hard.

I would think it goes without saying that you can never use a broad paint brush to lable a group.

Honestly, saying I have a Jewish friend is kind of like saying I have a black friend or a Mexican friend.

Point being, people are people, good and bad in any stereotypical group.

What I have found though from personal experience is that people who claim to be a good Christian in business you darn well better cover your butt on getting paid or having the work done correctly. As a Christian myself, do I really give a ratts butt if a business doing work for me proclaims their Christian beliefs? I only care about them doing the work right, and charging me accordingly.

I only mentioned Liberty university as far as screwing people over because I know they use to run some very long "delayed" terms that were never written into a contract and if the contractor took them to court, they'd never get work there again. I know of a couple of other well known "Christian" groups who have made the news by "well known" leaders who are basically a pain in the butt to deal with money wise collecting. Same thing for some individual small businesses who "proclaim" being Christian.

I see a "Christian" sign on a business card or vehicle, I won't call them.

God does not help you run a business but you would think God will tell you to treat others as you would have unto yourself. Personally, I don't think God wants us screwing each other.

Three things you never mess with...

A mans dog.
A mans wife.
A mans money.

You may or may not find those rules in the Bible, but it's a good set of rules to live by IMO.

Ironically enough, even the past president of Liberty University couldn't even figure that out, and you lead by example.

 

[PuffyC]

What I have found though from personal experience is that people who claim to be a good Christian in business you darn well better cover your butt on getting paid or having the work done correctly.

It's funny but I've found the same. I figure many just use it as some sort of logo to attract business, but then I'd also say I've never met a Christian who actually followed the teachings of Jesus. They'll say they do, and maybe they honestly think they do, but it's not evident according to any Bible I've ever read.