Why are people in Indianapolis going postal.

[Sigarms]

No, that is because they get away with it and don't get convicted.

Bingo!

I personally knew a woman who stole over 300k on her company credit card. Wife of a preacher no less.

Long story short, she had the same issue with her previous employeer, but they didn't press charges (if they would of press charges, she most likely wouldn't of been hired in the first at the company she worked with).

Long story short, AFTER 4 years, she was finally sentenced to minimal jail time (forgot the amount, but it wasn't much).

I couldn't believe how much BS the owner of the company she stole from had to go through to actually get it to court.

"White collar" crime is much hard

 

[PuffyC]

According to the FBI, over the last 30 years violent crime fell 49% and property crime fell 55%. Ironically, the majority of people polled think crime has actually gotten worse. Why? The media, who wants to stoke your fears to sell clicks and views. We're actually living in the golden age of human civilization right now - things have universally never been better for pretty much everyone but because we've also become so much better at disseminating information, and bad news sells, people think we're in some sort of decline.

Along those same lines, I'd say that what we're seeing in the world today has a lot to do with humans needing to fight for causes and liking to complain, however there aren't enough big issues left so we have to create them. As we've seen from both the right and the left, creating artificial problems to fire up the peasants is trivial because the peasants want to be fired up.

 

[MoKelly]

No, that is because they get away with it and don't get convicted.

OK. Thanks.

MoKelly

 

[MoKelly]

Bingo!

I personally knew a woman who stole over 300k on her company credit card. Wife of a preacher no less.

Long story short, she had the same issue with her previous employeer, but they didn't press charges (if they would of press charges, she most likely wouldn't of been hired in the first at the company she worked with).

Long story short, AFTER 4 years, she was finally sentenced to minimal jail time (forgot the amount, but it wasn't much).

I couldn't believe how much BS the owner of the company she stole from had to go through to actually get it to court.

"White collar" crime is much hard

When I was working for a very large corporation, we had a guy at a branch location steal $175,000.

We investigated, got evidence, prosecuted him snd he spent 4 years in jail,

He had to pay back $150,000 and was forced to sell his house. His wife divorced him over the house.

This was in Tenn.

MoKelly

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Larry,
Without emotion or calling folks racists, where’s the “lie”?I just showed you FBI shooting statistics. Heather MacDonald simply compiled them into a simple math formula to come up with a percentage. It’s just math.
Even Bloomberg, hardly a bastion of gun & cop defenders gave her credit that she was right.

It's easy to massage data to "prove" anything you want. Your example is just, "Hey, your dead one doesn't count as much as my dead one because you had more live ones to start with." It's straight racist propaganda.

When you encounter ANY statistic, promoted for political purposes, you have to do a thorough analysis. If they start selecting data in any way, you know it's a lie.

 

[Sigarms]

When I was working for a very large. O pant, we had a guy at a branch location steal $175,000.

We investigated, got evidence, prosecuted him snd he spent 4 years in jail,

He had to pay back $150,000 and was forced to sell his house. His wife divorced him over the house.

This was on Tenn.

MoKelly

What does it tell you when you're husband and wife in marriage, and yet the house is important than your spouse?

In my personal experience that I related, the reality is the pastor who was married to the woman who didn't get persecuted by the law the first time she got caught embezzling, but got jailed the second time should have divorced her butt by the second time. That said, the husband (pastor) swears he didn't know anything about it (even after the second one).

I'm sorry, if you're married and your spouse steels 100k a year and you don't know somethings up, you're to stupid for any job IMO.

 

[Sigarms]

When you encounter ANY statistic, promoted for political purposes, you have to do a thorough analysis. If they start selecting data in any way, you know it's a lie.

The issue is anyone good enough to gather statistics doesn't have a "end game" in mind when providing those stats. It's what people do with those stats after they're presented where it gets skewed.

I learned a long time ago that you would think that the FBI doesn't have a "end game" in mind when presenting stats, but I've been taught (rightfully so IMO) that isn't the case.

Key issue on interpretation of stats IMO isn't for political purposes, but for funding by the government which means MONEY

 

[Larry Caldwell]

- I must say after all of these links, it's almost tempting to dig in further see what it'd take to lawfully design/prototype a nuclear warhead ...... as I'm pretty sure there's a way given maintaining/developing the nation's nuclear arsenal isn't solely a government endeavor (as is the case with most weapon development/manufacturing efforts) even if it's primarily contracted and funded by the government.

Given Sandia National Labs is currently managed and operated by a wholly owned subsidiary of Honeywell, Oak Ridge National Laboratory is under a similar arrangement with UT-Batelle currently at the helm of operations, and Los Alamos is also under similar arrangement with a third entity (Triad National Security LLC as of 2018) ....it'd rather seem there is a way since if corporations can do it (potentially under contract), then an individual could too (though they may have to create a corporation and file a fair amount of paperwork)

.....suspect it'd take a whole lot of $$$ though (and be a lot more hassle that's it's worth even if it was legally profitable) ...probably says something when a government decides to hire out management of such places.

BTW the reason I knew to look that the management of the national labs was contracted out was that I had a classmate in college get a summer internship at Sandia -- there's more than a little interesting history around the national labs.

Nuclear warheads are difficult to design and build. My college modern physics professor worked on the Manhattan Project, and was open about calculating critical mass, but very close mouthed about the neutron source used to initiate the chain reaction. Without the trigger, a ball of plutonium or U235 will just melt into slag. North Korea had a bunch of failed bomb tests, probably for that reason. They would build a bomb, but it wouldn't do much, and it took massive research and investment.

Of far more concern is a dirty chemical bomb. The Russians assassinate people by putting polonium in their tea. Alpha emitters are safe to be around until they get into their system. Your skin stops alpha particles, but internally they will do a lot of damage. Put a radioactive isotope around a chemical bomb and you could make whole city blocks uninhabitable for years. Just the dust in the air would kill you, dogs, cats, birds, everything but cockroaches.

There's your extreme example. A weapon of mass destruction is illegal, just like nerve gas or any other WMD. Can you regulate a firearm that is designed to inflict mass casualties?

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Why is this happening? Because our justice system has gone soft. Commit a horrible crime today and the worst thing that happens to you is you get thrown into a prison with free food, free shelter, TV, a gym, and your laundry done for you.

You can call it "old fashioned" if you want, but our grandparents were correct. If they still swung these people from an oak tree in the town square suddenly a lot of folks with wild ideas would change their song.

Even our grandparents were not so eager to play god. Lots of innocent people have been murdered in the name of Law and Order.

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[jjp8182]

Can you regulate a firearm that is designed to inflict mass casualties?

It'd seem not given they still show up in countries with much more stringent firearm regulations than the US.

...and seeing how the "war on drugs" has turned out; it begs how much sense does it even make to try? particularly when there's no real data being collected on how often firearms (of any type) are being used defensively to make an honest evaluation.

Though as I mentioned earlier in this thread the concept of banning/blaming an inanimate object for human actions doesn't make much sense to me - nor does blaming groups for the actions of individuals. ...but it seems many want both to be the norm.