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   / Starlink #641  
Thanks for posting. Just paid the $99 and will see what happens. I suspect everyone is getting the same "available mid to late 2021" message.

Availability depends on your location. Generally. The further north you are, the better the coverage at present
 
   / Starlink #642  
We've had Starlink for 5 days now. As mentioned earlier, there were noticeable gaps in coverage the first couple of days, but they were only a few seconds each. The short gaps made no real difference when browsing the web or doing large downloads: it was still running rings around our old DSL (7 mbps down/1up on a good day). It also has worked well since day one for streaming video from YouTube/Netflix/Amazon: since those services all buffer the viewing by loading ahead of what you are viewing, you never even see the occasional few second gap in coverage.

In the first couple of days, I did get a couple of disconnects when doing a Zoom conference and a gap occurred, but it would reconnect after a few seconds. Something has changed over the last few days (I suspect it's that they have been bringing more satellites online): My Zoom conferences are going much more smoothly. I was in a two hour Zoom meeting yesterday evening. Twice I got a warning that "Your internet connection is unstable", but all that happened was a slight stutter in the audio and video, and things kept right one going. It was brief enough that I did not even needs to ask anyone to repeat what they said - it was still understandable.

To do Zoom on my old DSL line, I would have to kick everyone else off the internet or limit them to just reading emails or some other light use - even then, I'd experience freezes or have to shut off my video feed fairly regularly in order to keep the audio working. In my meeting last night over Starlink internet, there was no need for that. In fact, my daughter was simultaneously Facetiming a friend, and my son was watching YouTube videos.

I'm happy - it's been nice experiencing what broadband is like first hand.
 
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   / Starlink #643  
Starlink Pre-Orders are Now Available on First-Come, First-Served Basis for $99 which is refundable. Folks who pre-order have priority when coverage becomes available in their area.

SpaceX Starlink Internet Pre-Orders Now Available on First-Come, First-Served Basis - TeslaNorth.com

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WOOT! Thanks for the heads up! :thumbsup:

Thanks! That is some progress. The website estimates mid to late 2021 for 37 degrees north.

All the best,

Peter

I got the same estimate at 35 degree north so it seems like they are just setting a date well into the future. Hope they are promising late and delivering early. :D

Later,
Dan
 
   / Starlink #644  
I suspect StarLink will get a whole lot better this year. With more people working from home it will be a lot of help to Rural America. Zoom functionality actually uses very little bandwidth, 3 meg for all of it's functionality. So quite a bit less than you would think. There are some settings in Zoom that will use even less bandwidth like turning off HD Video, muting audio just to name a few.
 
   / Starlink #645  
I'm curious about what is required of a "beta tester". Are you required to provide input back to Starlink in the form of a report or periodic questionnaire? Or is input/feedback voluntary?
 
   / Starlink #647  
Elon Musk blasts Jeff Bezos''' Amazon competitor to SpaceX'''s Starlink

Stories like this concerns be about the future of StarLink.

It's a new business model. And on top of that, you have the US government, the FCC no less, involved.

The tech is clashing with bureaucracy, competition (real or perceived) and things that have not even been thought of yet. In addition to people, who are creatures of comfort in their interpretation of how things are supposed to work.

Tell me, exactly who does space belong to?
 
   / Starlink #648  
Tell me, exactly who does space belong to?

It doesn't "belong" to anyone. But you still can't do what ever in the **** you want to with it. That was defined way back in the 60's sometime if I recall

I'm still not sure all of these satellites are a good idea. If history has taught us anything we need to look long term at this not short term.
 
   / Starlink #650  
It doesn't "belong" to anyone. But you still can't do what ever in the **** you want to with it. That was defined way back in the 60's sometime if I recall

I'm still not sure all of these satellites are a good idea. If history has taught us anything we need to look long term at this not short term.

LOL. Do you see the problem in your reply?

If it does not belong to you, then why can't I do what I want. What authority do you have to tell me what I can do?
 
   / Starlink #651  
Don't forget the monopoly and antitrust laws...it's all about the retail commercial market...the FCC governs the rights to all (RF) frequencies...There are regulations that prevent exclusive frequency rights that could create a market monopoly...

Starlink and others are NOT new business models...when it comes to the business end they are no different than any other ISP...terrestrial or otherwise...
 
   / Starlink #652  
LOL. Do you see the problem in your reply?

If it does not belong to you, then why can't I do what I want. What authority do you have to tell me what I can do?

Hmm, I thought my response was pretty clear but obviously not. If he can do what ever he wants why did he need FCC approval to put the satellites up there?
 
   / Starlink #653  
SpaceX'''s Starlink accepting $99 preorders as Musk considers IPO

Maybe the IPO is a concern to Jeff?

Since Starlink is as also a military application and like 43K satellites are pre approved an IPO could seal the deal for rural internet to the free world.

I'm not sure I'd get to excited about Starlink being spun off into an IPO. The marketplace is riddled with failed companies that were very successful under private ownership and failed as a publicly owned and traded entity.

I'm going to speculate. Right now, all those satellites are being lifted up into orbit by SpaceX. I think Starlink is currently owned by SpaceX. So, right now, Musk is getting his satellites into orbit at cost. Once Starlink is no longer under SpaceX, the cost of replacing lost satellites due to normal attrition will go up considerably.
 
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#654  
Thanks for posting. Just paid the $99 and will see what happens. I suspect everyone is getting the same "available mid to late 2021" message.

:welcome: I agree that the "available mid to late 2021" message is generic. It will likely happen sooner, especially for those who pre-order.
 
   / Starlink #655  
I think he needs approval for the frequency delivery. Not the methodology.
Hmm, I thought my response was pretty clear but obviously not. If he can do what ever he wants why did he need FCC approval to put the satellites up there?
 
   / Starlink #656  
What will happen if they come out with better equipment later , will early systems have to be replaced or upgraded and if so what will the cost be for those that have older systems?
 
   / Starlink #657  
What will happen if they come out with better equipment later , will early systems have to be replaced or upgraded and if so what will the cost be for those that have older systems?

Who knows? You can apply that "question" to almost anything.
 
   / Starlink #658  
Signed up .. and paid my $99 today.
 
   / Starlink #659  
What will happen if they come out with better equipment later , will early systems have to be replaced or upgraded and if so what will the cost be for those that have older systems?

True. I guess you pretty much have to say the initial $500 cost is more like buying a ticket to the show. How long will it be good for. Not a huge dollar gamble though for what it is. Goes along with monthly pricing and caps and the future of all that.
I told the misses whatever she decides as she is the resident tech guru. I guess all I have to say to give her a nudge is that" I'm thinking about the new Harbor Freight satellite system." Comes with it's own bottle rocket...
 
   / Starlink #660  
I'm doubtful that you would get a static IP; they aren't available now.

Peter,

I monitor multiple remote locations using IP cameras and using a Synology server and other hardware in each location. Synology is a fantastic product, but I don't like their quickconnect (dynamic dns) implementation. So I'd prefer to have static IP's at each location so I know exactly how to get there without going through someone else's interface. Also, I built some remote monitoring using a PLC that runs as a specific address, using port 9000. I like to be able to directly address that from a remote location.

I'm open to new ideas. Other than subscribing to a dynamic dns service, do you know of a better way that would preclude my desire for static IP's instead of dynamic?

btw one of my locations is behind HughesNet's admin server using sat internet. Dynamic dns won't work with those since it is double layer. For that location I have to connect in using TeamViewer. It constantly updates the host and remote locations using its own bridging method, precluding a need for dynamic dns going through double layer.
 

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