Indoor Pollution from Gas Stoves

[old and tired]

The gas stove has nothing over my wife burning dinner on the stove.

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If I bring up indoor air quality with her... my butt would have to be venting OUTSIDE!!!

 

[Dftodd]

A vent hood that actually vents outside is truly a life changing appliance. Why even bother with the ones that just re circulate through the room?

Bathroom exhaust fans vented outside are life changers as well

 

[old and tired]

...are life changers...

...and marriage saviors...

 

[ultrarunner]

All of my old gas ranges are vented with chrome vent pipe...

So anything baked or broiled would be vented... cooktop not.

Somewhere along the line venting stopped.

Newer doesn't mean better... sometimes it just means cheap.

 

[MossRoad]

We've got a hood over our stove/oven that vents into the attic, then out a gable end. I think only a couple times in the past 25 years we've burned something enough to set off the smoke detectors. :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

We've had some asthma in my family. My mom developed it in her 50s. I had some form of it in my 20's. Had to use albuterol for a couple years and it went away. I was the epitome of good health when it came on. Physically active, lifeguard, worked outdoors at the airport. No idea what caused it. It's scary when you can't catch your breath.

I've seen several infants and young children with asthma, as well as adults. If you've ever seen someone having a severe asthma attack, it's looks almost exactly like someone drowning on dry land. Panic in the eyes. It's scary.

So to the OP, I kinda understand your concerns regarding your child.

 

[cqaigy2]

Something I didn't realize, but severe asthma attach can cause a heart attack. A women my wife and i knew passed away from heart attack caused by severe asthma attack.

I developed asthma in my late 50's. I've always been very healthy, physically active, worked (most of my adult live) and played outdoors. Now i have two inhalers, one for everyday, and one for emergencies.

 

[RalphVa]

I think that my wife would have a problem if we had a gas stove. (Personally, I do not want propane in the house after working with it for 31 years. Natural gas isn't too bad.)

We explored having a pellet stove insert since we have 3 fireplaces here that we cannot use due to the wife's allergy to wood back smoke. There was enough back smoke from a friend's pellet stove that she was starting to get asthma symptoms after being in the same room with it for a very short period of time.

Ralph

 

[CobyRupert]

Amazing all the problems that seem to crop up when peoples houses are too tight. Doesn't people health account for something over energy savings?

Not in people’s homes (where they spend the majority of their day/lives). But in offices and public spaces, there are HVAC codes about bringing in fresh air, air changes, etc...outside air temperatures and energy use be dammed.

Most people don’t realize the VOC’s given off by a new home’s carpet, paint, furniture, vinyl plastics, etc...instead they’re worried when they get a whiff of smoke from a stove that vents outdoors (and draws in fresh air all day long while doing so) when the stove door is occasionally opened.
How many times have you heard people say “Oh I love that new car smell!”? .... “Oh, thanks! That’s poison!”

 

[Industrial Toys]

I LOVE the smell of new carpet! lol But then my sister and I used to huff the gasoline odours from our 67 Ford Custom 500. Parents just smiled, like isn't that cute? Getting High was not even considered, we just loved the smell.

Think I will go fry some onions for my perogies. Does anything smell that good coming into the house?

 

[Oaktree]

We've had some asthma in my family. My mom developed it in her 50s. I had some form of it in my 20's. Had to use albuterol for a couple years and it went away. I was the epitome of good health when it came on. Physically active, lifeguard, worked outdoors at the airport. No idea what caused it. It's scary when you can't catch your breath.

I had bronchitis as a kid, 'most every winter likely brought on by the fact that my mother smoked. I couldn't take more than a few steps without getting out of breath...had to plan ahead if I had to "go". I was concerned about how I'd handle that first winter on my own, but I've never had an attack since I moved out of my parents' house. Wasn't until later in life that I associated it with my mother's smoking. Still can't deal with the smell of any kind of smoke...tobacco, pot or wood smoke), though it doesn't affect my breathing anymore.

As far as gas stove pollution, don't think I've had that but my wife does complain about soot from our (propane) hot water heater. Looks like our next one will be a power-vent.
House is 200 years old, so being overly tight isn't an issue. :laughing:

 

[ultrarunner]

Friends almost burned down their tight home...

They had a roaring fire in the fireplace and the family had just remodeled their kitchen... put in a indoor BBQ with corresponding range hood...

Wife turns on the range hood and the the fireplace draft reversed... flames just pulled out of the hearth and singed the ceiling... just from turning on the range hood...

 

[Deere Dude]

Bathroom exhaust fans vented outside are life changers as well

If I could find a vent for my reclining chair my wife would be much happier.

 

[Dftodd]

If I could find a vent for my reclining chair my wife would be much happier.

Thats a really good point.

 

[MossRoad]

Friends almost burned down their tight home...

They had a roaring fire in the fireplace and the family had just remodeled their kitchen... put in a indoor BBQ with corresponding range hood...

Wife turns on the range hood and the the fireplace draft reversed... flames just pulled out of the hearth and singed the ceiling... just from turning on the range hood...

yikes!

 

[ultrarunner]

It was after that I so the real benefit to airtight stove with outside combustion air.

Remember in the days of fireplaces when insulation, weatherstrip, better windows were added to code...

To get a chimney to draw often required cracking a window...

With gas and wood being phased out or banned the options are limited to electric for most...

Of course indoor Cannabis is exempt so particles of combustion not totally eliminated...

Many of the older sections of town simply don't have power available to go all electric... especially if that means replacing gas range, gas dryer and gas heat.

 

[cqaigy2]

Of course indoor Cannabis is exempt so particles of combustion not totally eliminated...

I'll assume you are referring to smoking Cannabis indoors. I'm wondering where that is exempted. It's not exempt in Washington state.

 

[ultrarunner]

Sorry... coming soon to a state near you but so far new ordinance in San Francisco...

Limit or ban new gas hookups in residential, ban tabaco and e-cigaretts in your own home unless single family or duplex but smoking cannabis permitted in all residential housing... and no medical card required...

Oregon just started decriminalization too.

 

[rademamj1]

I strongly suspect this gas stove study was done, in support of future political plans to move away from hydrocarbon based fuels in this country. California already has plans to ban natural gas stoves in all future new home construction. And this type study, though having many flaws, it fits politically with encouraging the public to adapt to the future strategies. And you should do it now for the sake of your children. Not even subtle and certainly sneaky and borderline unethical.

Reminds me of the huge political strategy we faced in 1970's and 80's. To help the environment and save our forests, everyone was encouraged to switch to plastic bags, plastic plates, plastic straws and reduce use of paper products whenever possible. Scientific studies by universities were released, that clearly showed, for every 10 million people that switched from paper to plastic, we could save 100,000 acres of forests in this country. Plastic was touted in all the studies, as the best and safest for the environment. Grocery stores were required by law to do way with paper bags and supply plastic bags only. And 25 years later, we all know how this strategy worked out. We nearly destroyed the world with millions of tons of plastics.

 

[buck12]

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No danger for me to be poisoned by the new car smell. I drove my last truck for 17 years as my daily driver and still use it for a hunting truck. My current truck is 11 years old and plan to keep it for a few more. My tractor still has the new smell does that count as poison?