Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[5030]

Yes, the learning Curve

and Now small tractors Cost being the hurdle , but once cost parity with diesel happens:thumbsup:

Cute little tractor and a fun video- Lots of good points made to.

That is a bad joke right?

 

[aczlan]

I can see all those large outbuildings covered with solar panels charging batteries for the tractors and combines. A driverless mule would bring out freshly charged battery modules to be swapped out with the expired ones (just like changing batteries on your cordless drill). All without contributing to the fortunes of Big Oil.

It's not uncommon for a large tractor or combine to be burning 10-15 gallons of diesel per hour (or more for larger machines), if we go with the equivalent of 13GPH (a little over 200HP output) that is about 500KW per hour, or about 5 of the big 100kwh batteries that Tesla is putting into their cars.
That will require about 2.5 acres of panels per tractor to charge (if they are producing their rated capacity) which will cost about $500,000 to install, plus the cost of the 2nd battery

Not seeing that being worthwhile in anyone's book.

Aaron Z

 

[5030]

It's not uncommon for a large tractor or combine to be burning 10-15 gallons of diesel per hour (or more for larger machines), if we go with the equivalent of 13GPH (a little over 200HP output) that is about 500KW per hour, or about 5 of the big 100kwh batteries that Tesla is putting into their cars.
That will require about 2.5 acres of panels per tractor to charge (if they are producing their rated capacity) which will cost about $500,000 to install, plus the cost of the 2nd battery

Not seeing that being worthwhile in anyone's book.

Aaron Z

Only with government subsidies bit then the government don't have it either. Far as I'm concerned, it's all pie in the sky wistful thinking.

 

[5030]

Go buy a Bolens Electrak and be happy. Lots of used ones around. Just replace all the shot flooded cell jars and go mow your lawn.

 

[sd455dan]

That is a bad joke right?

No- kind of a 1st attempt at a fully electric CUT
that is actually being built and sold.

Is it to expensive to be practical right now for anyone but the super rich?? YES

A novelty, but most tech advances start that way.
remember when the very 1st cell phones came out. they were very expensive with very limited coverage, short battery life and long re charge times.

Motorola Dyna Tac in 1983 only $3995- about 10 grand in todays dollars

Give it a few years, imo with more battery advances, costs Will come down and there will be electric tractors in many sizes and available at dealers lots. For the next few years I still think diesel is hard/impossible to beat.
Then again some of these tier 4 and approaching tier 5 emission systems/ problems could make electric tractors appealing. Rules already making older tier 3 and 2 tractors hold their value.

 

[5030]

I know, I own two bigger (over 90 horsepower ones).....

" Rules already making older tier 3 and 2 tractors hold their value."

neither are for sale unless someone makes me an offer I cannot refuse, then maybe.

 

[5030]

John Deere has an electric utility FWA tractor out in the mid power range (75-105 horse pto) but it's cost prohibitive (in the excess of 150 grand), has a projected 6 hour run time as well. None of that works except for some fat cat wannabe farmer.

You are correct, someday they will be commonplace, but I won't be here anyway, so for now, I'll stick with my oil burners.

 

[two_bit_score]

No- kind of a 1st attempt at a fully electric CUT
that is actually being built and sold.

Is it to expensive to be practical right now for anyone but the super rich?? YES

A novelty, but most tech advances start that way.
remember when the very 1st cell phones came out. they were very expensive with very limited coverage, short battery life and long re charge times.

Motorola Dyna Tac in 1983 only $3995- about 10 grand in todays dollars

Give it a few years, imo with more battery advances, costs Will come down and there will be electric tractors in many sizes and available at dealers lots. For the next few years I still think diesel is hard/impossible to beat.
Then again some of these tier 4 and approaching tier 5 emission systems/ problems could make electric tractors appealing. Rules already making older tier 3 and 2 tractors hold their value.

The super rich have submarines and islands. Why would they want a battery tractor?

 

[Agvg]

For inner city maintenance more and more city departments have in their contracts that equipment must be electric, pollution and noise is the argument. Here I Europe tractors are seen as a tool carrying vehicle and are very common in all kinds of use. So the market is growing fast on my side of the Atlantic.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Elon Musk BEST Motivation 2! | 1 Rules for Success - YouTube

It was only after Elon Musk started landing and reusing the first stage of rockets that I got really interested in the man and his teams behind him. His blowing up of big famous rocket engines motivated me to read what others had to say about the man and why they said what they said. This short video sums up hundreds of hours of what I learned.

 

[two_bit_score]

Elon Musk BEST Motivation 22! | 1 Rules for Success - YouTube

It was only after Elon Musk started landing and reusing the first stage of rockets that I got really interested in the man and his teams behind him. His blowing up of big famous rocket engines motivated me to read what others had to say about the man and why they said what they said. This short video sums up hundreds of hours of what I learned.

He is a brilliant scam artist.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

He is a brilliant scam artist.

Sounds like you may be channeling the unconverted Jim Cramer of yesteryear. Check out the converted Jim Cramer below.

Jim Cramer & Rob Maurer Discuss TSLA Stock, Elon Musk, Tesla's Battery Day, and Tesla's Advantages - YouTube

 

[cqaigy2]

Can't wait to see that silo go up 20Km this October. :thumbsup:

 

[Agvg]

Some new Chinese commercial vehicles for sale at a Honda, Suzuki and Isuzu dealer.

 

[Agvg]

And of course this

 

[California]

Kinda off-topic but I'll share it here:

Article about a YouTube channel showing videos of Tesla Autopilots avoiding crashes, reacting faster than the driver could have.

Updated weekly with videos sent in by Tesla owners.

Watch Tesla Autopilot Predict A Series Of Crashes: How Does It React?

 

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[Gale Hawkins]

Some new Chinese commercial vehicles for sale at a Honda, Suzuki and Isuzu dealer.View attachment 668073View attachment 668074View attachment 668075View attachment 668078

China is well positioned in the small EV space it seems as well as the electric bus market.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Kinda off-topic but I'll share it here:

Article about a YouTube channel showing videos of Tesla Autopilots avoiding crashes, reacting faster than the driver could have.

Updated weekly with videos sent in by Tesla owners.

Watch Tesla Autopilot Predict A Series Of Crashes: How Does It React?

Thanks for sharing that link. My driving interest in EV's is the autopilot feature features. I knew Tesla was leading the pack but did not know by how much. My daughter wants my Leaf to drive to college but I do not have the money for any kind of Tesla let alone the $8K for the full self driving module. We have a lot of large animals in the road.

Tesla's lead I am starting to understand comes from benefiting from Musk's other businesses like SpaceX and Neuralink. I watched my first video on Neuralink and below is the Cliff Note version of the hour plus version.

Neuralink Will End Suffering For Millions (& Help Humans Merge With Artificial Intelligence) - YouTube

Below is the full version of this promo to college age students to come to work for Elon Musk.

Watch Elon Musk's ENTIRE live Neuralink demonstration - YouTube

If one has seen Avatar the Neuralink project is geared to learn how to enable humans to overcome limitations. The pig on the treadmill clicked tonight.

On a side note Youtube lead me to Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson after watching the above. He was not talking about Musk but talks about how our future is impacted by things like Musk is doing for mankind. The more I listen the more I realize Tyson is very smart but not everyone's cup of tea.

Amazing Interview With Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson - YouTube

 

[two_bit_score]

Tesla cut an additional $3,000 off the Model 3 today just after starting sales the car. Some see this as a bearish market for the vehicle.