Relocating the entire farm...

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The last 2 times we moved, the first thing I did was call for a dumpster to be dropped off and emptied weekly. There were a few disagreements about what was needed but nothing serious. The dumpster rental was the best money we spent.
I've actually been pretty aggressively getting rid of stuff that's been in storage in the shop for 3 years recently. We don't have any trash service so I burn what's flammable, metal goes to the scrap yard and the rest gets buried deeply.

I'm going to move my stuff as I need it. Whatever I haven't needed to move in a year or so will probably get sold, left or trashed.

The household stuff, my wife's mostly, gets moved whether we need it or not, I'm not about to argue with her.
 
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Nows a great time to move. There are a lot of"HOT SHOT" trailer guys looking for loads. They have 40' trailers pulled with F350's Dode 3500 etc. They get loaded about a $1.00 a mile. Same with animal haulers. Loads are down now and they work for a lot less.
Otherwise buy the longest flatbed trailer you can haul and do it load by load. You can rent an animal trailer or just have a truck and trailer come pick up the animals.
Easier than you think.
 
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Tragedy Tree

I was born and raised in West Texas and boy was it flat and sparse. Moved to Alaska at 11 and have never looked back. Visited family in Camp Wood, Kerrville, San Antonio, Lometa and Lampasas. I liked all those areas and would also consider relocating. Finally, after 57 years I am weary of the cold, snow and darkness of winter. I am also ready for trees other than spruce.

Camp Wood is a small place. Blink and you miss it. But beautiful.

I might be headed that way in a couple of weeks. Kid is going to church camp.
 
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Camp Wood is a small place. Blink and you miss it. But beautiful.

I might be headed that way in a couple of weeks. Kid is going to church camp.

I enjoyed what little time I spent in Camp Wood. I only met the Church Ladies and they were wonderful.
 
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We've got 3 Nigerian Dwarfs goats, about 30 pigs at the moment but, that'll be 4 at most before we move, and more chickens than I can count. The goats and chickens aren't too bad, they just need a good shelter and a fenced yard, we let the chickens free range during the day.

The pigs, on the other hand, need excellent fencing and a few good sized pastures to rotate through, even with just 4, or they'll destroy the ground. They also need a wallow and some sort of shelter.

Pigs don't need much of a fence. An electric nose wire will teach them their boundaries, and after that they will never touch it.

The goats, on the other hand, need Trump's border wall, and will still get through it.
 
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Pigs don't need much of a fence. An electric nose wire will teach them their boundaries, and after that they will never touch it.

The goats, on the other hand, need Trump's border wall, and will still get through it.
I've got a 13 joule charger on the pig's fence, they test it all the time.

Our little goats can be contained with 3' no climb fencing, as long as it's tight. If it's loose at all, they'll use that to their advantage and climb out.

All of the fencing I've installed has been 4' sheep and goat, it'll contain all of our animals well but, the pigs need the hotwire as well and I have to check their fence line weekly to clear the dirt they've rooted into the hotwire to ground it out.

Our pigs were born wild and domesticated by us. We've kept regular domestic pigs as well and these wild pigs are 100x smarter than a domestic pig, they constantly challenge you.
 
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Depending on your ability to load and unload the equipment you might could find a company who runs empty from where you are to where you are moving to and get better rates than normal but you can load a lot on a 40 foot flatbed. For that distance you may well find someone who hauls livestock like that also.
 
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If someone is hired to haul goods, someone has to be there to unload the trailer right away. Maybe many times. If you need to be there to unload then you might as well get a trailer and do it yourself and take your time.

I moved from WI to TN which was a 700 mile trip. I bought a 16K 28' gooseneck for the move. It took 7 trips and was a pain but I would do it again unless there was a time crunch. All day driving and unload the next day. Three hours would be a piece of cake. I threw about a load of metal and garage goods and items I knew I would never use again in the firepit or the recycle bin or goodwill.

For special thinks like animals a different mode would be needed.
 
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Unless you have a class A license stick with a trailer that is stickered at 20K pounds because you can register it with farm tags and not have to have the class A license. DPS is not going to bust your chops on a slightly overloaded farm trailer as long as it does not look dangerous (look at all of the farmers hauling hay) but they will get you with a 26K trailer and no class A license.
 
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Unless you have a class A license stick with a trailer that is stickered at 20K pounds because you can register it with farm tags and not have to have the class A license. DPS is not going to bust your chops on a slightly overloaded farm trailer as long as it does not look dangerous (look at all of the farmers hauling hay) but they will get you with a 26K trailer and no class A license.
You can actually go over 26,000 pounds with farm tags and no CDL. I've got a 28,000 pound dump truck with farm tags on it.

All but 1 of my trailers have farm tags, I keep the 1 with regular tags for non-farm stuff.

The roads between here and the new ranch aren't very well travelled since the pipelines have gone in and oil has dropped. The last few trips we've made, I haven't seen any DPS at all and only a couple of cops. I'll only have a couple of trips that'll need to be over 25,000 pounds though. The boom lift is 21,000 so once you add in the trailer and truck, I'll be at about 29,000 total. I'm going to need a bigger excavator as well, my 3500# mini-ex isn't going to cut it in the rock. A 12,000 - 14,000 pound excavator is going to weigh in around 20,000 pounds. And our fifth wheel is 18,000 pounds empty, the truck is 8,000 so it gets us to 26,000.

I guess I should technically get a non-commercial Class A to be 100% legal. As infrequently as I pull loads that heavy though, it seems like too much trouble and I haven't had any issues with DPS yet.
 
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I've got a 26' deck over with dovetail and 16,000# capacity, a 20' GN dump trailer with 16,000# capacity, a 14' GN stock trailer and an F450 to pull them all. I'm going to look at a 40' GN with 25,000# capacity on Monday for the couple of pieces of equipment I had to have delivered because they were too heavy for my trailer. So, I've got the trailers and vehicle to move everything, it's just a matter of the effort and time to do it all.

Nows a great time to move. There are a lot of"HOT SHOT" trailer guys looking for loads. They have 40' trailers pulled with F350's Dode 3500 etc. They get loaded about a $1.00 a mile. Same with animal haulers. Loads are down now and they work for a lot less.
Otherwise buy the longest flatbed trailer you can haul and do it load by load. You can rent an animal trailer or just have a truck and trailer come pick up the animals.
Easier than you think.

You've got lots of trailers. Why not hire some one with a decent GN Tow Vehicle to caravan with you? It saves you trips and time.
 
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So I've been working on this move since August now, man is it a job. We didn't have any pastures on the new place so step one was fencing those and building shelters so I could move the animals. I finally got them all moved in late Nov and Dec. Now we're working on the rest of the equipment and stuff. I got the dump truck moved today, have the boom lift planned for Monday and got a 53' van delivered Friday gif the household belongings and the rest if the shop stuff. If all goes well, I'm hoping we'll be done by mid Feb.

Bottom line, it's all worth it for the new location but in general, I wouldn't recommend this undertaking unless you've got a good reason. PXL_20210115_235751079.jpgPXL_20210115_214215077.jpg
 
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I guess one load at a time , Maybe box everything up and hire a mover for the household items ..... start calling friends...and maybe go through the stuff and get a dumpster....good luck.......:)

As a kid, we moved 3 timess. 6 cows, pigs, chjickens, full farm equipment (30s vintage). I don't remember it being all that much of a hassle but the neighbors did a lot of the hauling. Oddly, I cannot recall how the animals got moved on the last move. The first move I was to yourg to remember much. 2nd mmove wasn't but about 5 miles so the animals all went 'on the hoof'.
 
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If we ever do move, it will be with just a couple suitcases. Fresh start means a fresh start. To old to survive the stress of that type of move, I guess.
 
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If we ever do move, it will be with just a couple suitcases. Fresh start means a fresh start. To old to survive the stress of that type of move, I guess.

I'm getting taken out of my place feet first.
 
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If we ever do move, it will be with just a couple suitcases. Fresh start means a fresh start. To old to survive the stress of that type of move, I guess.
We're leaving the area more than anything else. Thefts are picking up again, I had batteries stolen out of a mower and a truck recently and some other stuff has walked off. Life is too short to live somewhere you can't ever leave for fear stuff will be gone when you get back.
 
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We're leaving the area more than anything else. Thefts are picking up again, I had batteries stolen out of a mower and a truck recently and some other stuff has walked off. Life is too short to live somewhere you can't ever leave for fear stuff will be gone when you get back.

I hear you and understand that. We've been considering a possible future move to Seminole, Tx and subscribed to their newspaper and are shocked by the crime.
 
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I'm getting taken out of my place feet first.

Wife is ten years younger so am just considering a possible move for her benefit for after I pass.
 
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We're leaving the area more than anything else. Thefts are picking up again, I had batteries stolen out of a mower and a truck recently and some other stuff has walked off. Life is too short to live somewhere you can't ever leave for fear stuff will be gone when you get back.

When the place you live at isn't a place that you feel safe, or comfortable about things outside, then it's time to move. I felt that way in the 90' when I decided to leave California. It took me a few years to find Tyler Texas, and it was all worth it in the end, but the move was brutal. 3 trips hauling stuff 2,000 miles wore me out!!! It sounds like your move is a lot more involved then mine was. I only had two small dogs to deal with, and an annoying ex wife that wanted to stop every hour so they could go for a walk!!! I did the other two trips by myself, and that was a lot better.

I've thought about moving again, but don't want to deal with hauling all my stuff to another area. The few times we talked about it, I looked up the different cities in those areas on City-Data.com - Stats about all US cities - real estate, relocation info, crime, house prices, cost of living, races, home value estimator, recent sales, income, photos, schools, maps, weather, neighborhoods, and more to see what the crime was like there, and compare it to Tyler. It's not great in Tyler, but the surrounding towns are very good. If we moved, it would have to be to a place that is better then where we are at now. Some are a lot better. The two offers that she got where for pretty big money in Helena MT and Estes Park CO. We actually went to Estes Park to see what it was like there, but didn't think it was a place we would want to live. She still gets job offers all over the country, so who knows, it could happen?
 
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When the place you live at isn't a place that you feel safe, or comfortable about things outside, then it's time to move. I felt that way in the 90' when I decided to leave California. It took me a few years to find Tyler Texas, and it was all worth it in the end, but the move was brutal. 3 trips hauling stuff 2,000 miles wore me out!!! It sounds like your move is a lot more involved then mine was. I only had two small dogs to deal with, and an annoying ex wife that wanted to stop every hour so they could go for a walk!!! I did the other two trips by myself, and that was a lot better.

I've thought about moving again, but don't want to deal with hauling all my stuff to another area. The few times we talked about it, I looked up the different cities in those areas on City-Data.com - Stats about all US cities - real estate, relocation info, crime, house prices, cost of living, races, home value estimator, recent sales, income, photos, schools, maps, weather, neighborhoods, and more to see what the crime was like there, and compare it to Tyler. It's not great in Tyler, but the surrounding towns are very good. If we moved, it would have to be to a place that is better then where we are at now. Some are a lot better. The two offers that she got where for pretty big money in Helena MT and Estes Park CO. We actually went to Estes Park to see what it was like there, but didn't think it was a place we would want to live. She still gets job offers all over the country, so who knows, it could happen?
Mt and Co are both really nice if you're in the rockies. The problem with Co for me is the political leanings of the cities there. It's like Austin, but worse. Some of that Austin nonsense is creeping into the rest of the Hill Country as more tech companies relocate and bring their employees but, the more rural areas like we're in are still pretty down to Earth.
 
 
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