Corona Virus #5

[Jstpssng]

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He also routinely avoids that this is just ramping up; whereas the flu has been established in some variation for a long time. In one of the previous CV threads a poster compared this to our AmerIndians and the new sicknesses which our ancestors brought from Europe.

 

[Dutch445]

seems many of our leaders in the know are going to benefit from this, sell high, buy low...
sad

 

[Jstpssng]

They may get what's coming to them though. There are laws against that very thing.

 

[ovrszd]

My friend, it is not difficult to find projections. They are a "best guess" at this point, and will always be....just like the number of deaths from flu every year varies and we "know" more about it.

It is why I was alarmed a few weeks ago. The projected range of deaths was significant and it raised a red flag. Lots of people here calling it "just the flu" had not done the research or were living by the great river DeNile. A couple of the resident morons here still reside by that river. (BTW, I am a member on a shooting site and they have an even larger number if morons and members of the tin foil hat crowd....the average tractor owner appears to be more sensible than guys shooting lead projectiles.)

This is real, it is serious, it will affect the economy, it will kill a lot of people, but we will survive if we are not stupid. Be safe!

I agree. I would like to see both ends of the spectrum calm slightly. I think that will come. We are so spoiled.

 

[sd455dan]

Quick question. Why are all of our infection projections in the 50-150+ million US citizens, when China seems to hold steady at ~86K cases with a population over 3 times ours? I know we're not quarantining as seriously as China was (yet), but I don't get how these numbers are extrapolated over time unless they're basically saying that China's #'s will go back up once the quarantine is lifted.

China BUILT Temporary Emergency ICU Hospitals in record Time.

They tested and then Isolated Infected People Immediately-ie Quarantined.

The Number 1 way the Infections spread was thru Family Clusters...



The next 2 spots on earth that this Virus may be very hard to control is India and Africa

Sub Saharan Africa has almost no testing and very limited health Care.

India's population about 1.4 Billion

 

[k0ua]

James,

I hear you. I have lost a lot of my retirement in a week or so. If I was selfish, I would say "let it spread and kill a couple million...not my problem...I am prepared." I am ashamed to say I have thought that a few times.

We cannot believe all the numbers, but it seems the Chinese have this contained with remarkably few deaths. They are a communist country and can do things western governments cannot do until it may be too late. Look at Italy. They still have not peaked and more will die, but already they have more deaths than we know of in China.

The lowest projection I have seen is about 300k dead in the US. But that is assuming we keep doing what we are doing now. So, one measure we can use is..."the day we get to 1000 deaths in the US, then this thing was as bad as they thought". By then it will too late to do much and we are riding it out unless a wonder drug is found, produced and distributed that mitigates the symptoms....note: no vaccine for about a year assuming it does not mutate.

Letting the old, compromised, stupid people die quickly might be the best course of action. I am old but not stupid so can rationalize that option. Heck they will die anyway soon enough!!! When the system gets overwhelmed the old will not get (or will be pulled from) ventilators, and the time/resources used to help the old winds up getting wasted anyway. That is happening in Italy and will happen here....letting the old die. One ventilator...a 35 YO with two kids...a 70 YO with asthma...who gets it? This is the choice they are trying to avoid by flattening the curve. And it cannot be flattened if we carry on business as usual.

Oh, I understand all of that. I am very worried about the economy. To put it into prospective, the worldwide death's are just over 10,000. That is a drop in the bucket. nearly a statistical blip. I just wonder if we are going overboard. As I write this I have a sore throat and had chills yesterday. Who knows...

 

[ovrszd]

Oh, I understand all of that. I am very worried about the economy. To put it into prospective, the worldwide death's are just over 10,000. That is a drop in the bucket. nearly a statistical blip. I just wonder if we are going overboard. As I write this I have a sore throat and had chills yesterday. Who knows...

Yeah, maybe one of the members that knows they are much smarter than me can give us that number in percentages?? What percent of the World population has contracted this Virus? What percent of the World population has died from it?

 

[ovrszd]

Yesterday I had two FEMA representatives in my shop. Spent the day with them visiting damage sites. They wouldn't shake my hand, against the rules. Wouldn't ride in my vehicle, against the rules. Used my bathroom. Sat at a table with me while we passed paperwork back and forth. They were only concerned about me transmitting the virus to them. They were the only two people I had contact with yesterday beyond my wife. Which of us should have been concerned?

Every little bit helps. I understand that. But sometimes it gets a bit silly.

 

[two_bit_score]

How It All Started: China’s Early Coronavirus Missteps - WSJ

 

[k0ua]

Yeah, maybe one of the members that knows they are much smarter than me can give us that number in percentages?? What percent of the World population has contracted this Virus? What percent of the World population has died from it?

Well that wouldn't be too hard to figure out. lets see, Total world population (all figures rounded off for simplicity)

7,700,000,000 total who have contracted the disease: 250,000 So .0032% have contracted it In words. 3 thousandths of 1 percent

Again 7,700,000,000/10,000 so .00012% have died from it. So 1 ten thousandth of 1 percent
So