TESLA Electric Truck?

[Gale Hawkins]

Post 384 handled that nicely...

Candidly, I don't give a hoot one way or another. If Muck can get public taxpayer funding, more power to him but that don't mean I'll ever own a plug in vehicle because I won't. Even if I was given one, I'd never accept it. My bottom line and my final comment.

5030 thanks for your posts especially your final comment. We all come from different angles.

 

[ruffdog]

There is a time and place for any different technology regardless what type of fuel it uses. I will not jump on the EV bandwagon just because it is the latest and greatest shiny object some people are obsessed with.

 

[Jstpssng]

There is a time and place for any different technology regardless what type of fuel it uses. I will not jump on the EV bandwagon just because it is the latest and greatest shiny object some people are obsessed with.

Nobody has asked you to. People who believe in them are spending their money, supporting the technology in hopes that the idea take off. As I recall that's how "hybrids" became popular... then all of a sudden they became a fad. I've been interested in EVs for more than 20 years, although I'm not about to spend more than I would for a gas vehicle. Yet as I mentioned previously, it would be nice to be able to fuel up locally rather than driving 20+ miles to the nearest gas station.

 

[ruffdog]

Nobody has asked you to. People who believe in them are spending their money, supporting the technology in hopes that the idea take off. As I recall that's how "hybrids" became popular... then all of a sudden they became a fad. I've been interested in EVs for more than 20 years, although I'm not about to spend more than I would for a gas vehicle. Yet as I mentioned previously, it would be nice to be able to fuel up locally rather than driving 20+ miles to the nearest gas station.

I have used many EV vehicles in manufacturing settings and it worked great. There were no fumes except in the battery room, they were quiet, used no flammable fuel, could recharge at work station, high torque to haul weight, and easy to operate. All of these are great reasons to have EV's in a factory setting. Are we ready for them to populate the roads in high numbers? We should take it slow so we can avoid mistakes is all.

 

[sd455dan]

So what is the problem? I had a diesel SUV that would deliver 30 MPG at 70 MPH. But put a 4500 pound trailer behind it and it got 10 MPG (at less than 70 MPH). "Range" fell to 200 miles! Conclusion: "Diesel isn't here yet."

Model X Long Range has an EPA rated 328 mile range. Hitch a trailer and range drops to 1/3rd? You act as if that is unusual or unexpected?

For towing Anywhere near the Cybertucks 14000 lb rating long distance or in mountainous conditions you may need recharging stations every 80 miles or less- that is all i was trying to get across.

Some folks might not take the math into consideration and hook up a trailer head into the hills and get stranded.

Until charging stations are as common as gas stations or the Cybertruck is offered with a 250 kwh + battery it will likely be a problem that deserves consideration.

If you don't need to tow heavy a significant distance especially in mountainous areas and use the truck like a car as many people do then it is not a problem.

I do tow heavy and significant distances sometimes and will be keeping my 1 ton Cummins powered diesel pickup
even pulling close to GCWR of 23000 lb
With a standard 32 gallon tank and a Fully loaded trailer the range is still well over 200 miles.

It is about the amount of energy that needs to be carried along for the ride that is needed to tow heavy trailers significant distances, that is the point i was trying to make.

Nothing against electric or hybrid cars or trucks, heck, may even be going with a family member to purchase a Chevy Volt this week.
I like Electric and Hybrid vehicles and would Love to own a Tesla someday.

Industrial Toys linked the article from "Engineering Explained" which sums it up pretty well. EE also owns a Model 3 performance I believe

Why Teslas Are Bad At Towing (Today) - YouTube

 

[davrow]

Those who have EVs enjoy and embrace them. Those who don't shouldn't be forced into buying one.

(Some of) those who have internal combustion engines enjoy and embrace them. Those who don't shouldn't be forced into buying one.

I am forced to buy ICE because EV trucks aren't for sale yet.. NO ONE is forced to buy an EV.

 

[two_bit_score]

(Some of) those who have internal combustion engines enjoy and embrace them. Those who don't shouldn't be forced into buying one.

I am forced to buy ICE because EV trucks aren't for sale yet.. NO ONE is forced to buy an EV.

It’s the market that is forcing you or rather restricting you for buying.

 

[ultrarunner]

Y2K was a joke. I was working in an IT role in the years preceding, in a Large Public Agency. A consultant was hired to assess vulnerability. This was realistic, the agency billed the Feds some $millions and millions monthly for various cost sharing programs and that all ran on Cobol with the 2-digit year field limitation.

But the consultant took us good. I was asked to list wall clocks along with the 60 or so laptops and the server I was responsible for. I replied the wall clocks ran on C-cell batteries so pointless to assess vulnerability. ... I got overruled. Whatever, it all pays the same.

After a year of anxious upgrades our agency was ready well in advance for Y2K and there were no issues - as you summarized.

Y2K was a joke. "Be Very Afraid". Fear of the unknown, then ridicule, then finally acceptance of change, seems to be the model for things new and different.

I spent a lot of hours assessing Y2K and all night on new years eve... nothing happened except I got overtime...

We did have some issues... minor work arounds... instead of 2000 several items went to 1900... just added labels.

The old security system date could not be programed with a 2... as in 2000 so the few times I had to program it I went to 11:59 pm 1999 and it rolled to 2000 and then I could edit by skipping over the "2" place holder leaving it unchanged.

Is for EV... maybe what I am seeing isn't common but more and more have work and home solar and drive EV... like Tesla or Leaf... they charge their commute on solar and when the days are short... net metering helps.

This is my first year of net metering... so far at true up I have just under a $700 surplus of generated electricity on yom 2008 160W panels...

My immediate neighbor put in solar this year and on the cloudiest rainy day when the street lights start coming on he was still generating 500+ Watts... mine wasn't... he has new 300W panels or 320W...

 

[ultrarunner]

The biggest problem you had is that it is illegal in Kentucky to resell electric power. So EA can not bill you by the kWh, they have to bill you by the minute to rent the parking space. And while you rent the space they can give you electricity.

It like the farmer that was not allowed to sell raw milk to the Montessori school... being a simple man he suggested the school buy the cow and he would charge for caring and milking the school milk cow... he was no longer selling milk!

 

[groundcover]

Loopholes to everything !