Bad Move Lowes!!!!

[zzvyb6]

Meanwhile, go search for all the posters on this and so many other sites wanting to support Chinese companies instead of US ones. They want cheap prices no matter what. Their co-workers, neighbors, and even family are second fiddle to their wallets.

One hand does not wash the other anymore in this land. But wait, I can hear the screams when THEY loose their jobs because of overseas competition. Maybe they can find a job as an Amazon reseller ! Instead of buying directly from a local company, you pay someone to buy it for you from Amazon and then they ship it to you to hide the connection.

Glad my future will be absent from all the rats trying to hang onto the handrail as the ship sinks.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Explain how it's a bad move.....

Grow a company, or remain stagnant and fall behind.

While yes, it sucks to lose your job ( I know, it happened to me after 30 years), when you look at it from purely a business standpoint, and take the sentimental and emotional feelings out of it, it makes business sense.

I have to agree even though some folks lose their jobs, it is better than the company going under. Every company reduces staff when necessary in order to make a profit. You only hear about the big ones where it affects thousands. The local Mom and Pop outfit does the same thing when necessary to maintain their profit margin if they are smart otherwise they have to close their doors.

 

[Hozzie]

State or Federal Labor departments could deal with this by requiring that any replacement jobs be at the same pay and benefit scale as those dissolved.

Just what we need, the government telling business how to run their business. We would have no stores if the Govt was able to dictate labor wages. Go ask Bernie how that $15 per how minimum wage is working in his own campaign.

 

[atsah]

Just what we need, the government telling business how to run their business. We would have no stores if the Govt was able to dictate labor wages. Go ask Bernie how that $15 per how minimum wage is working in his own campaign.

From what I have seen, most of the $15.00 an hour workers still aren't worth the $10-12 they were making to begin with..

"the government telling business how to run their business"... Ya that's a wonderful idea, they have their hand in enough of our business already...

 

[MossRoad]

State or Federal Labor departments could deal with this by requiring that any replacement jobs be at the same pay and benefit scale as those dissolved.

That's not how things should work. If you own a business, it should be 100% up to you what you pay your employees. If times are tough, and you have to cut back, layoff, let go, downsize, freeze pay, cut pay, outsource, etc.... you should be able to take those actions. That should be up to you. If you can't get good, dependable people to work for you, then you should realize that you are not paying enough and you'll have to change your business model to support paying good people better wages.

I realize that for many people, working at big box stores is the only current option. However, government should stay out of it and let the market dictate the terms.

 

[DerbyRunner]

Good Lord... You can't find anyone working there now...

Both major chains are pushing more and more people into self-checkout. A Lowes I visited had no registers open, just one person "assisting" people use any one of the four self-checkout stations. As someone said earlier, if I'm going that ... I want the employee discount.

 

[DerbyRunner]

State or Federal Labor departments could deal with this by requiring that any replacement jobs be at the same pay and benefit scale as those dissolved.

The French have this and more. Have you looked at what a mess they have on their hands now?

 

[DerbyRunner]

Glad my future will be absent from all the rats trying to hang onto the handrail as the ship sinks.

Just curious, how will you manage to do that?

 

[k0ua]

That's not how things should work. If you own a business, it should be 100% up to you what you pay your employees. If times are tough, and you have to cut back, layoff, let go, downsize, freeze pay, cut pay, outsource, etc.... you should be able to take those actions. That should be up to you. If you can't get good, dependable people to work for you, then you should realize that you are not paying enough and you'll have to change your business model to support paying good people better wages.

I realize that for many people, working at big box stores is the only current option. However, government should stay out of it and let the market dictate the terms.

Amen..

 

[Threepoint]

[snip]
At our local MI Lowe's, you about need a translator to English. End of rant, sorry.

Now, to be fair, didn't your junior high school counselor urge you to choose Spanish as your second language? Mine sure did, and I went with French. I've regretted that decision for the last 30 years. :laughing:

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Now, to be fair, didn't your junior high school counselor urge you to choose Spanish as your second language? Mine sure did, and I went with French. I've regretted that decision for the last 30 years. :laughing:

We only had french, no choice.

I dont blame Lowes.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

What's frustrating is asking for assistance and getting someone who knows less than I do in that department, not a kid either but 40+ year old. A few people are really sharp, but yesterday was a fiasco.

I feel your pain... I seriously couldn't tell you how many times people come up to me in Lowes or HD and say, " You look like you know what your doing, could you help me?" I don't mind, I feel bad for them; not everyone is a contractor...

 

[the old grind]

Tant pis, n'est ce pas?

("C'est dommage.")

 

[3Ts]

I realize that for many people, working at big box stores is the only current option. However, government should stay out of it and let the market dictate the terms.

When this becomes the case, it is time to re-evaluate your location. There are many reasons to stay, and many reasons to move someplace else. Only one person can make this decision, hopefully they carefully consider all options.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Out here, lowes or HD are your best choice! I have a local "lumber yard" / true value that is about 5 miles away. I will only get an item or two (usually screws or nails due to bulk pricing). If I need lumber, I'll drive 45 miles to the Lowes or HD in the big city. My last project needed 220 2x4's..... I went to HD and pulled just about everyone straight as an arrow, no checks, no chunks missing. Tossed aside maybe 10. The local lumber yard charges 25-30% more and could'nt find a good one out of 50-60 studs....pure junk. All of their lumber is just junk!

I don't care if the store maintanance is done in house or subbed out. As long as they have what I need, at the best price, that's what matters.

 

[3Ts]

And my "local" Lowes store keeps their lumber inside a climate controlled building, the local lumber yard keeps it outside.

 

[LD48750]

And my "local" Lowes store keeps their lumber inside a climate controlled building, the local lumber yard keeps it outside.

OMG!!!!

Thats almost as bad as the local tractor dealer here. He lets his "new" tractors sit OUTSIDE.
Even when it rains or snows.

 

[Oldpath05]

Maybe Craftsman tools are bad luck......

 

[NoTrespassing]

When a company is formed, their goal is not to employ people, their goal is to make a profit.

Illinois passed a $15 minimum wage law recently along with many other states. I've noticed a lot more automation at large stores. We bought some items online "site to store" at Walmart the other day. They have a "Jetson" like automated distribution system now and I'm guessing it has eliminated a few employees at each store. They've also changed almost all of their cashiers to automated. The trend will continue as long as government pushes higher minimum wages. Companies will continue to cut positions to protect their bottom line and return a profit to share holders.

Evidently Lowes has determined they can save money by jobbing out some of the labor. Another factor to consider is an unemployment rate that is 3.7% now. That's basically full employment and everyone that wants to work is working. Finding qualified people is a big problem for employers right now.



Kevin