Scan tool for ls tractors

[Bbc396]

Just for info my Xr31 35 has a obd port and I can read codes and get live data with a elm327 and torque app on my phone.

 

[Cataclysm]

Same here.

 

[bevhoward]

fwiw, I confirmed this at my dealer here in Austin last year (my XJ2025h doesn't have a computer) I even loaned him an Android tablet with the Torque app and BT scanner for a month, but, in the end, he never did much with it.

All of the "standard" (meaning "emission related") codes are available, but there are additional LS specific codes that are not available to owners.

The dealer and I have had extensive discussions related to the John Deer legal case and he indicated that LS has been having discussions on the same subject.

Bottom line, communicate with your dealer and LS that having access to all the error codes could be a major selling point for LS if they made the codes available to LS owners.

Beverly Howard

 

[TractorGuy]

Funny how you can read and even tune practically every performance car sold but the tractor industry is able to keep developers at bay. We need to get the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act expanded to include tractors.

 

[Bbc396]

Catclysm could you check how much boost yours makes at full throttle? Thanks just want to compare to my 35hp model

 

[jaydee325]

Funny how you can read and even tune practically every performance car sold but the tractor industry is able to keep developers at bay. We need to get the Magnuson邦oss Warranty Act expanded to include tractors.

It has more to do with return on investment. There is a huge market out there for tuner products for cars/trucks. Very small market for tuning tractors, especially CUTs. So, no developer will spend the dollars to service the tractor market segment that has a small potential market.

 

[Cataclysm]

Today roading over to feed the cows I saw a little over 16 psi on the torque app. Didn't get a pic until I got to the gate. You can see the Red marker(s) indicating the highest reading(s).



Here are the available sensors according to TP. Couldn't get them all in one screen shot.



Sure would like to get EGT, Oil temp and Hydraulic oil temp. I have been tempted to put aftermarked oil/hydraulic gauges in myself.

 

[Avenger]

I was thinking of this too. Adding an oil temp gauge and an EGT gauge.

What tool is that? I use the Blue Driver for my scan tool on other vehicles (havent put it on the tractor yet) but I like how that one is laid out.

 

[bevhoward]

In my tinkering "Torque Pro" has proven to be the best app.

There are a number of bluetooth transmitters on amazon for under $20... read the reviews.

A tech note... Android is really the only option for bluetooth tools. Apple does not follow the standard bluetooth protocols, so these inexpensive tools can't be used and app communication has to go through wifi on iOS devices. That, in turn, creates other problems such as when you connect to a wifi scanner, you then can't connect to the internet if wifi is the only option.

Torque has a list of all possible sensor values and if you connect and go to the gauge setup section, the values that Torque sees are highlighted so you can skip the ones that are not available on the current vehicle.

Hope that this information is useful,
Beverly Howard

 

[Avenger]

Awesome! Thank you! I will check it out

 

[PCABE5]

I'd have to buy an adapter for 9 pin round to use a Bluetooth transmitter.

 

[bevhoward]

9 pin round to use a Bluetooth transmitter

Interesting... I thought that standard 16 pin obdii connectors were required in the USA

I wonder if tractors are exempt?

Would be an interesting question for New Holland dealers.

Beverly Howard

 

[Cataclysm]

I was thinking of this too. Adding an oil temp gauge and an EGT gauge.

What tool is that? I use the Blue Driver for my scan tool on other vehicles (havent put it on the tractor yet) but I like how that one is laid out.

In the Torque Pro app you can add themes. This theme is just a nice blue theme that was in the list. The actual gauge page I made from adding the gauges I wanted onto a blank page.

I just went down the list of available sensors and used the ones I thought most useful.

 

[PCABE5]

Interesting... I thought that standard 16 pin obdii connectors were required in the USA

I wonder if tractors are exempt?

Would be an interesting question for New Holland dealers.

Beverly Howard

Most ag tractors I've seen use the 9 pin round. Maybe New Holland wanted the round on their models so they are standard across the models.

 

[Avenger]

This is going to sound bad, but I cannot find the OBD2 plug on my tractor. I see a photo in the service manual of it, but does not show where it is. I took off the lower dash cowling and looking around suspecting it would be there. I dont have a reason to plug into it, just want to know where it is and tinker with my scanner.
If anyone (or everyone) knows...

Thanks!

 

[bevhoward]

This is from memory and I only saw it once, but I think it is near the right ??? rear of the engine and accessed standing next to the tractor.

It's at about knee level.

It is not hidden under any panel, but I think it had a dust cap.

Beverly Howard

 

[George2615]

Not sure if it's the same but on mine you have to remove the right side panel under the ignition key. Mine is a round 9 pin receptacle (CAT style plug). Had to buy an adapter plug that converts it to standard OBD II. Then plug in the ELM 327 and used an Android phone with torque pro or similar program.

 

[PCABE5]

If you have the service manual 2, look in the electrical section page 7-59 and 7-66.

7-59 is the round plug and 7-66 shows a obd style plug. Guess it may depend on the market it's sold in.

Remove the lowest dash trim panel, may even have a hole on the lower right side of that panel in front of the plug. Pretty much right under your key switch.

 

[PCABE5]

Not sure if it's the same but on mine you have to remove the right side panel under the ignition key. Mine is a round 9 pin receptacle (CAT style plug). Had to buy an adapter plug that converts it to standard OBD II. Then plug in the ELM 327 and used an Android phone with torque pro or similar program.

George do you mind sharing which adapter and elm327 that you bought.

 

[bevhoward]

This one works for me and fares well with the elm check app.


ELMIdentifier


I think this adapter matches the one on the new holland page

Beverly Howard