Your last generator Maintenance Run

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I did go with a 12 volt charger and it worked fine... just one more thing to buy.

Hear ya !

Figured you'd have it covered.... that comment was mostly for the general reader :).

Looks like Makita has one that'll cover 12 to 24vdc.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #2,172  
It would be great for people on solar. Why make ac ONLY TO CHANGE IT BACK TO dc?
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #2,173  
So got another chance to look at things again. Did continuity tests across gen -> chassy (good) and all cable connections (good).

Fired everything up again but went for 505 rpm and 59.2Hz. lo and behold success. Lights didn't flicker and had the whole house running at less than 10A steady load.

Looks like it was just an out of spec frequency issue, curious now if it's the rpm counter on the L4760 or gear ratio on the gen that's letting it overrun slightly at 540.
 
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So got another chance to look at things again. Did continuity tests across gen -> chassy (good) and all cable connections (good).

Fired everything up again but went for 505 rpm and 59.2Hz. lo and behold success. Lights didn't flicker and had the whole house running at less than 10A steady load.

Looks like it was just an out of spec frequency issue, curious now if it's the rpm counter on the L4760 or gear ratio on the gen that's letting it overrun slightly at 540.

Too easy. :thumbsup:

Hadn't thought about it before..... somebody on here (TBN) likely knows..... optical/digital should be reasonably accurate, but not sure about expected tolerance on mechanical tachs.....

Rgds, D.
 
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Yeah, after learning the quirks of it overall I'm pretty happy with how it all works(that's why you do this before the power goes out ...). Fuel usage was reasonable, noise is waaaay less than our 3.5kw one.

Couple other things that I didn't mention, I ran it this time with 5-6" of lift on the 3pt so the PTO shaft was parallel compared to set on the ground. Previously it would have a bit of wobble/vibration. With it lifted up that was totally gone.

I had also coiled a bit of my 30ft cable that connects to the transfer switch, I can't remember my ac theory well enough but I may have been inducing a bit of inductive load with that. Had it all uncoiled this time.

Lastly for fun I tried charging our EV directly from the gen as they both use NEMA 14-50. Sadly that didn't work as the charger was expecting a ground and when connected directly to the tractor there wasn't one. I didn't feel like digging up a spare ground rod so I'll have to leave that experiment for another day. Would have made a great load tester as you can set the charging rate on an amp by amp basis.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #2,176  
Yeah, after learning the quirks of it overall I'm pretty happy with how it all works(that's why you do this before the power goes out ...). Fuel usage was reasonable, noise is waaaay less than our 3.5kw one.

Couple other things that I didn't mention, I ran it this time with 5-6" of lift on the 3pt so the PTO shaft was parallel compared to set on the ground. Previously it would have a bit of wobble/vibration. With it lifted up that was totally gone.

I had also coiled a bit of my 30ft cable that connects to the transfer switch, I can't remember my ac theory well enough but I may have been inducing a bit of inductive load with that. Had it all uncoiled this time.

Lastly for fun I tried charging our EV directly from the gen as they both use NEMA 14-50. Sadly that didn't work as the charger was expecting a ground and when connected directly to the tractor there wasn't one. I didn't feel like digging up a spare ground rod so I'll have to leave that experiment for another day. Would have made a great load tester as you can set the charging rate on an amp by amp basis.

As for the EV depending on if you have gas engine on that or battery only it would be good to be able to charge the EV if needed from the generator. Just another thing you can take care of in an emergency.
 
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Yeah, after learning the quirks of it overall I'm pretty happy with how it all works(that's why you do this before the power goes out ...). Fuel usage was reasonable, noise is waaaay less than our 3.5kw one.

Couple other things that I didn't mention, I ran it this time with 5-6" of lift on the 3pt so the PTO shaft was parallel compared to set on the ground. Previously it would have a bit of wobble/vibration. With it lifted up that was totally gone.

I had also coiled a bit of my 30ft cable that connects to the transfer switch, I can't remember my ac theory well enough but I may have been inducing a bit of inductive load with that. Had it all uncoiled this time.

Lastly for fun I tried charging our EV directly from the gen as they both use NEMA 14-50. Sadly that didn't work as the charger was expecting a ground and when connected directly to the tractor there wasn't one. I didn't feel like digging up a spare ground rod so I'll have to leave that experiment for another day. Would have made a great load tester as you can set the charging rate on an amp by amp basis.

Runs nice, after the bit of checking/fettling you did. +2 on doing that in "peacetime".

Yes, best not to leave your cable coiled, esp. as power levels go up.

Yep, the car would be a great test load - nice to have that gen-backed for extended grid-down events.

If you are into making your own fuel (and have an old diesel), then you could even charge your EV from your french-fry oil !

Rgds, D.
 
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Lastly for fun I tried charging our EV directly from the gen as they both use NEMA 14-50. Sadly that didn't work as the charger was expecting a ground and when connected directly to the tractor there wasn't one. I didn't feel like digging up a spare ground rod so I'll have to leave that experiment for another day. Would have made a great load tester as you can set the charging rate on an amp by amp basis.
If you are plugging something directly into the generator (vs connecting it to the house), the ground and neutral should be connected together.

Aaron Z
 
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I was looking for a water-resistant charger, at 3+amps.

Not a lot of bells/whistles, but 6amps, IP67, delivered to my door for $51 Canadian.... Sold.

Robot Check

BLACK+DECKER BC6BDW , in case that link acts up.

Time will tell how well bonded they are, but I like the rubber wrap bumpers - adds some protection, and act as stand-offs on a flat surface (helps thermal).

This shipped with the 2 primary connectors; I'll make or buy the ring-terminal one.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your last generator Maintenance Run #2,180  
I was looking for a water-resistant charger, at 3+amps.

Not a lot of bells/whistles, but 6amps, IP67, delivered to my door for $51 Canadian.... Sold.

Robot Check

BLACK+DECKER BC6BDW , in case that link acts up.

Time will tell how well bonded they are, but I like the rubber wrap bumpers - adds some protection, and act as stand-offs on a flat surface (helps thermal).

This shipped with the 2 primary connectors; I'll make or buy the ring-terminal one.

Rgds, D.

As long as you dont cook the battery. ive see non trickle chargers boil off the fluids in a battery.
 

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