**** backhoe's are expensive

[Sysop]

Backhoe vs Excavator - YouTube

They did have the mini-ex at a disadvantage having a smooth grading bucket for trenching. Needed teeth for max digging speeds.

 

[Looking4new]

There is no doubt in my mind that a mini-ex is of more use to me than the backhoe attachment on my Kioti. The backhoe is what I could afford at the time and that is what drove me to it. $$$ it all came down to money. And one less machine to maintain.

 

[Agvg]

They did have the mini-ex at a disadvantage having a smooth grading bucket for trenching. Needed teeth for max digging speeds.

Suppose it's a desperate try in the hope to sell some backhoes, here I live the sale died out in the late eighties, backhoes didn't stand a chance compete against excavators.

 

[4570Man]

Suppose it's a desperate try in the hope to sell some backhoes, here I live the sale died out in the late eighties, backhoes didn't stand a chance compete against excavators.

I thought it was a pretty funny video. The loaders lack a lot of versatility the skid steers have. What do you use the fill the gap? A mini is a pretty useless one piece unit. They require a skid steer or something else to help. And neither of the excavators you posted earlier are very common here. You’ll have to pay twice as much for that as a 50 series mini or a 15 ton machine.

 

[GSVette]

I have an Case 580E that I wouldn’t be without. I considered a backhoe attachment for my CUT but thought that switching out to do 3 pt tasks would be too much of a pain. As it turns out, I doubt a small tractor backhoe could have dug through some of the decomposed granite that I trenched through while trenching for water /power lines. Having the ~20’ reach of an extenda-hoe also reduces unproductive move time.

Cost-wise, maintaining the industrial TLB is probably higher (particularly depending on age and condition if you buy used)-how much higher I can’t say as my tractor hasn’t need service of a significant type yet-basic fluids and filters aren’t much different. I have had to rebuild a couple of cylinders and the steering control valve as well as a few hoses- wasn’t cheap but not unbelievably costly-some industrial TLB parts are though.

When it came to doing the septic borrowed a friends Volvo excavator-glad I did as the length and number of laterals, length of tightline and 2 large tank installs would have taken a long time with either my Case or a mini-ex.

Each tool has its strengths and weaknesses-the industrial TLB is a compromise as is the CUT mounted backhoe and the mini-ex. You pick the one whose weaknesses are the least objectionable and strengths are the most usable.

 

[Sysop]

Each tool has its strengths and weaknesses-the industrial TLB is a compromise as is the CUT mounted backhoe and the mini-ex. You pick the one whose weaknesses are the least objectionable and strengths are the most usable.

I agree with that, but I also agree with many tractor backhoe owners; a good operator with a good tractor backhoe "can" accomplish many of the same tasks. Where a tractor backhoe is a winner for many buyers, they are faster than working by hand with a shovel and wheelbarrow, and they are less expensive than the used commercial equipment.

 

[Agvg]

I thought it was a pretty funny video. The loaders lack a lot of versatility the skid steers have. What do you use the fill the gap? A mini is a pretty useless one piece unit. They require a skid steer or something else to help. And neither of the excavators you posted earlier are very common here. You’ll have to pay twice as much for that as a 50 series mini or a 15 ton machine.

Well, the problem with skid steer is a very limited ability to handle snow or terrain, a wheel loader is much better at this. Skid steer are here seen as a building or construction tool not as an all round machine, the Hitachi on the pic was a 8t, probably the most common class is between 6 - 8t, moves it on a tractor.

 

[4570Man]

That’s what skid steers are. I thought the same was true for most other construction equipment. I still don’t know why they use tractors to pull a mini in road. Trucks have one job and that’s pull loads down the road and you can’t beat them at that. That’s kinda your whole point with the mini excavator.

 

[Agvg]

Has used skid steer and small wheel loaders, as a wheel loader the skid steer doesn't work well. But inside buildings and very tight places they have an advantage.

 

[Agvg]

But now are we drifting into a bit off topic so everyone use what they can afford and enjoy.

 

[4570Man]

My buddy has a small wheel loader in the 5 ton range. I like the big wheels and lower operating cost over a skid steer but it lacks the fine control and versatility offered by a skid steer. It’s made for what the name implies and also works pretty good for moving stuff with pallet forks.

 

[Agvg]

This size is very popular for a lot of in-house tasks, very common in farming, it's a Avant that I do believe is sold in the us.

 

[Sysop]

This size is very popular for a lot of in-house tasks, very common in farming, it's a Avant that I do believe is sold in the us.View attachment 584128

Here in the US (at least my part) that would be called an articulated tractor.

 

[Agvg]

Is a wheel loader

7 series – Avant loaders

 

[DK35vince]

Suppose it's a desperate try in the hope to sell some backhoes, here I live the sale died out in the late eighties, backhoes didn't stand a chance compete against excavators.

Commercial backhoes are still popular here for most townships.
The townships use the front loader for loading their trucks with salt, antiskid, gravel Etc. then the TLB can be driven to the Twp. roads needing ditching or repair vs trailer everywhere.

 

[paulfun9]

Still very popular here also?

I sold mine after the foundation here was dug. The backhoe even then saw much more use than the excavator did, so did the crawler which was only sold two months ago.


Many who don’t want to face the fact th at both machines have benefits that are actually dependent on your overall needs and might actually differ from thier own have most likely never had the ability of picking the right tool for the particular job at hand from a lot full of different equipment.

 

[two_bit_score]

I considered a skid steer when I bought the JD 110 TLB. I may still get one at some point but I have been well served with the 110.


TBS

 

[Agvg]

This is what are used here

 

[Agvg]

For maintenance of roads you must have reach and a TBH DOS have a very limited swing

There are some of these machines in use but not very common except on railway work.

 

[dennis103]

I had a John Deere 4310 w/ backhoe and when i upgraded to a Grand 6060 I included a backhoe also. The size of equipment is all relative to the size of the job. I'm not in the construction business. I don't need a mini excavator to dig up my septic tank covers to pump the tank but I don't want to do it with a shovel. A stump in a woods trail, a rock I'm tired of mowing around all the way up to expanding my driveway to better park my trailer. Is it a toy? My wife thinks it is. But really its no more a toy than comparing the Grand 6060 to a Cat 944. Also you will get 1/2 your $10000 you paid for the backhoe attachment back when you trade or sell.