Warehouse racking for wood stacking?

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Komrade

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I am considering using a combination of plastic pallets and warehouse racking for firewood stacking. We actually don't burn that much (last year we burned about a cord, and that was primarily bc we had issues with the minisplit), but I'd like to have firewood at hand for emergencies, and we can always sell it in bundles to campers.

Currently my firewood is on wood pallets, and despite being on pallets it's damp (low lying spot). The flat spots are at a premium in the mountains, and I want it to both look good and be functional (e.g. be close to the house)

The pallets are 55x43, which is roughly 16sq feet. Oak (dominant tree around here) is about 5000lb/cord, which turns out to be about 40lb per cubic foot (128cuft in cord). at 3 feet high, that will make the pallet weight of around 2000lb (16sqft X 40lb X 3ft), barely within lifting capacity of my tractor (see below), however with a 2-shelf system about 9ft high (4 ft per shelf + height of shelf), I could keep 8 of these each year, with 3 bottom being green, and top 3 being dryer (easier to lift) and 2 remaining ones being 'leftover' from last year (e.g. dryer). Additionally, since our wood stove only takes 18" logs, we'd be able to only take advantage of about 36" of that 43" depth, reducing overall theoretical weight by 15%. That should give us about 2.5cords of wood (48cuft per pallet X 8 *85% / 128 per cord). If we ever needed to expand, more wood could be stored in random flat spots not so close to the house.

I think I would like to find either steel racks to hold these pallets, or build something of my own.

I think the steel racks might be hard(er) to find to fit my setup. Plus they have the disadvantage of rusting, and having to 'hide' the 'industrial look' (would want to make them look like a regular wood shed). However, the advantage is for a few hundred bucks (if could be found used) it would require minimum labor to setup, and they're pretty durable.

In order to build one looks like a 2x6 can support about 1600lb in a 4ft section, which means a pair of 2x6 with a 4x4 as a pole can easily support this setup.. This popular mechanics wood shed could be modified to fit these needs.

These are high level thoughts, and looking for feedback. I know the pallets could have been smaller, but for $3 per found locally I can't beat that price.

Breakout force (lift): 2,160 lbs [979 kg]
Lift to full height (at pin): 1,345 lbs [610 kg]
Lift to full height (at 500mm): 1,003 lbs [454 kg]
 
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I have my wood in IBC / pallet tank frames and stack one on top of the other. I have yet to do something creative so I can set the tote undercover by the house or get the loafing shed built to protect it out back. :) I'll be watching your thread.
 
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CL tote price around $100 (intact) in this area... plus harder to transport via a small truck.. and we are about 50mi from closest "civilization".. would take a while to 'shop' on CL.. trying to come up with something relatively quick, and relatively simple, yet not an eye sore.
 
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I'm "into" pallet racking, having bought a lot during the downturn from places closing.
I set 1 well used rack outside in Alexandria Virginia for over a year and the additional rust was minimal. I think occasionally spraying with Fluid Film may have prevented that.

There is a frequent CL ad where they sell used pallet racking in Baltimore. I like pallet racking because I can load a rack to the ceiling, unload it and move it by myself. No ripping wood apart.
 
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I found some beams in 120" for 16$/per on CL (would fit two side by side if the shelf was also 44" deep), but would still need to find some uprights of acceptable height (8ft) (haven't picked it up yet)

I concur pallet racking is easy to assemble and disassemble, although depending on the length of those beams having another person to help wouldn't hurt.
 
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if your using totes just stack them on top each other.. as soon as I can get enough that will be the only way I do wood.. 20170129_163753038_iOS.jpg
 
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Whenever I go to my BJ's I always drive around back by the loading docks to see what they're throwing out.

Have found many 28" x 52" red plastic bottoms for push carts some damaged some not-great for laying on ground to stack wood or pallets on

My absolute best find however are the pallet racks they use in the warehouse and stockroom for merchandise. The uprights are 42" deep and 12' tall

Two years ago I saw a stack of 6 uprights out for trash. I knocked on the loading door went inside spoke to their security guy and asked if I could take them. Sure he said
I have a Tacoma pickup with 6' bed. I bought a 5 ' bed extender that goes in receiver hitch. Went home to get it and now had 6-12 ft uprights no beams yet.
I kept watching and by the end of the summer I had 20 of the uprights.
I also came across around 15 10ft cross beams
Most had a little damage to them. Usually a twist or small dent in the first 2-3 ft at ground level. I easily straightened this or reveled do the bottom footplate.
I guess they have OSHA inspections and have to switch out bad ones hit by forklifts!
The forklift drivers must not be too careful because I continue to get the uprights. If I don't pick them up they get a dumpster and fill it with the uprights and other junk.

I built a 10 x 21ft shed that was going to be for firewood but ended up with a workbench, shelving, my 1920 tractor, golfcart stored in it. Added a 7 x 21 ft movable awning to the front that I lower down when a hurricane or nor'easter threatens. I used the 42"wide x 12' tall uprights for the sides, roof rafters and front awning. I ended up buying 2x4's or 4x4's for purlins and green metal roofing for roof and awning. Lowering awning before a nor'easter with 24 to 36 inches of snow was wonderful. Snow slid off, next day I raised awning and pulled out tractor to cleanup. Such a happy thing!

will post some pics for you
 

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I found some beams in 120" for 16$/per on CL (would fit two side by side if the shelf was also 44" deep), but would still need to find some uprights of acceptable height (8ft) (haven't picked it up yet)

I concur pallet racking is easy to assemble and disassemble, although depending on the length of those beams having another person to help wouldn't hurt.

There are several good videos on installation.
 
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more pics
 

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That IBC tote is "the cats meow" for storing/moving wood!!! 1st time I'v seen that..
I live near a campground that sells "bundles" of taped-up scrap for campers at 5.00 "a bundle".. about 5-6 "pieces" of wood..
I know when I had my camper there, I'd go thru an IBC tote of wood on a weekend..{size reff. only}
Just hypothetically, what would/should a person charge for a IBC tote full of wood like that?? Naturally you'd have to figure in a deposit on the "tote"..
 
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Last year kept going to the BJs near me and over a couple of months, the got rid of quite a load of pallet racks and beams. More than I needed but as my Dad trained me, I took em anyway- raw materials!
Turned out my brother could use them for a quick hay storage shed and also to build more small sheds for his tractor wood equipment etc. I kept collecting them and he ended up with quite a few. Loaded his pickup with one load. 4 hr drive to his place.
I kept getting them and he ended up bringing his big box trailer for the rest.

I always knocked on the back door of the warehouse and asked if I could take the racks. They were happy for me to take em!

Here's the pics
 

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To make a small 8' x11' shed like the one I'm moving with my tractor forks
I took 2 damaged pallet uprights. They were 12' high.
I used a 4 1/2" grinder to cut the welds on the diagonals and hit em with a hammer to remove. I wanted the front of the shed 7' high and the rear 6'. So I cut the front upright 7' and the rear 6'
The horizontal cross brace was only 42" deep so I cut them with a sawzall in the center. I had some chainlink fence toprail tubing that I cut to 7' long. Which was the depth I wanted for this little shed.
The toprail tubing fit perfectly inside the horizontal cross brace I cut earlier. I used a self starting metal roofing screw to attach and soon I had my right and left sides of the shed. Welding would have been better.
Get the front and rear beams attached and you have a basic sturdy shed.
Apply roof and sides and there you go
Simple light shed
 

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MikeW,

That's some good scavenging. I'll have to try that with Costco. Unfortunately for me my trips are pretty rare and far, so it would be tough to build up a materials arsenal.

Glad somebody else is already using warehouse racking for firewood, although I haven't thought of using racking steel beams for building structures.. Even if not free, they could be cheaper than 4x4's.

Also, glad there are still parts of long island where you can have a little freedom in your yard. Although, LI probably has fewers HOAs than some newer developments (e.g. around DC)
 
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MikeW where on LI? I'm from Riverhead (40 years ago).
 
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MikeW,

Also, glad there are still parts of long island where you can have a little freedom in your yard. Although, LI probably has fewers HOAs than some newer developments (e.g. around DC)

no HOA just the town and they don't know. No foundation so should be same as HF tent canopy just a lot stronger.
 
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I have a few (many) cousins in Wading River.
 
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MikeW,

Do you do anything to reduce rust?

Did not do anything yet. the most rust I have seen was in the pile of beams and uprights that sat in a pile uncovered outside for months.
The rust on the bottom of beams was on them from BJs


Big shed has been up 4 years and no rust yet
Smaller sheds have faded paint but no rust
All have roofs.
 

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I was showing the Mrs. this thread as I'm in the process of looking for "shelving" for my new shop.. & considering new covers for my boats..
& I asked her if her store{manager at W.Mart} threw out racking systems.. she said, NO, they send them back to the manuf. for replacement. ******..
I thought I had a gold mine.. Oh, well.. I guess I'm off the BJ's??
LOVE the thread btw.. nice job.
 

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