Found a coyote, I think

[1010]

There isn't much difference in a dog or a yote, they are all unpredictable give the environment.
I always think of a fool when someone says their dog won't bite.
The next best thing is folks thinking they are doing an animal a favor by putting it in a cage for the rest of it's life.
People talk to dogs like they are humans and yes after enough time dogs understand tone and body English, but the dog won't pay attention to the owner's demands once free if the dog considers himself as master.
The point is dog and yotes only understand one thing and that's who is boss unless they are just locked up in a cage then it's just a inhabitant occupying a space. What joy this must bring, especially to the human that put them there.

 

[Sigarms]

There isn't much difference in a dog or a yote, they are all unpredictable give the environment.

The EXACT same thing can be said for humans.

 

[Raspy]

One is wild and another is domesticated.

Animals are animals, be it they're four legged or two legged.

OK, describing everyone as an animal doesn't discuss our differences. And the differences are what make it interesting.

Sandy became domesticated and I've seen so called domestic dogs that were pretty wild and that I would never trust. Domestic dogs can pack up and take down deer and then revert back to being lap dogs.

So, the more important difference might be whether or not coyotes can be domesticated, such that they can calm down and be trusted. And if they can be, how are they hard wired to act. For instance, Sandy is an analytical game player and initially wary of strangers. She likes to nap and patrol around like a cat. She could play endlessly with me and our other dog, because we all knew the game. She has twice dug her own den. She could spend hours in the car on road trips sleeping peacefully, get out to pee and then jump back in to go again.

Aside from a few traits and appearance, she was a domestic dog in every sense.

And she was never caged until we took her to Southwest. Then it was a matter of kill her or put her in a large enclosure with a life partner. She is very happy and under no stress, so that is the bottom line on judging what was right for her.

 

[Raspy]

The EXACT same thing can be said for humans.

Sure, but this discussion is about one coyote in particular, with some hope we may be curious enough to want to know more about her and other ones. It's not a human study.

It's more accurate to say they are predictable, given the environment, than it is to say they are un-predictable given the environment.

 

[Sigarms]

Sure, but this discussion is about one coyote in particular, with some hope we may be curious enough to want to know more about her and other ones. It's not a human study.

It's more accurate to say they are predictable, given the environment, than it is to say they are un-predictable given the environment.

Take a domesticated dog, and chain it 24/7, and see what the odds are that you change it's behavior per increasing the odds that the animal shows more aggression. THAT'S what I'm refering to per environment and behavior.

 

[Sigarms]

So, the more important difference might be whether or not coyotes can be domesticated, such that they can calm down and be trusted. And if they can be, how are they hard wired to act. For instance, Sandy is an analytical game player and initially wary of strangers. She likes to nap and patrol around like a cat. She could play endlessly with me and our other dog, because we all knew the game. She has twice dug her own den. She could spend hours in the car on road trips sleeping peacefully, get out to pee and then jump back in to go again.

And what if coyotes CAN be domesticated, what are you proposing?

 

[Molalla1]

OK, describing everyone as an animal doesn't discuss our differences. And the differences are what make it interesting.

Sandy became domesticated and I've seen so called domestic dogs that were pretty wild and that I would never trust. Domestic dogs can pack up and take down deer and then revert back to being lap dogs.

So, the more important difference might be whether or not coyotes can be domesticated, such that they can calm down and be trusted. And if they can be, how are they hard wired to act. For instance, Sandy is an analytical game player and initially wary of strangers. She likes to nap and patrol around like a cat. She could play endlessly with me and our other dog, because we all knew the game. She has twice dug her own den. She could spend hours in the car on road trips sleeping peacefully, get out to pee and then jump back in to go again.

Aside from a few traits and appearance, she was a domestic dog in every sense.

And she was never caged until we took her to Southwest. Then it was a matter of kill her or put her in a large enclosure with a life partner. She is very happy and under no stress, so that is the bottom line on judging what was right for her.

You did good Raspy. . .:thumbsup:

 

[GirlWhoWantsTractor]

In Sandy's case, we simply rescued a little pup that was very close to death and we didn't even realize what she was. We even tried, initially, to return her to the wild after our neighbor had picked her up, but it was a death sentence.

This is how it usually happens: you find an orphan needing rescue. Almost no one ASKS for this. It just happens, and then you make the best decisions you can at each point.

 

[1010]

Simple question what would any supposedly domesticated caged animal do if the gate was left open? I'd love to see what the yote in this instance would do. Since we've heard so much about the ridiculous yote utopia it's been doomed to.

Even the pet you own do you have to block it from running out the front door when a visitor arrives?
I mean from running off down the street?


I love it when somebody attempts to speak for an animal like they really know they aren't stressed and happy living in a freaking cage till death. LMAO.

 

[Raspy]

Take a domesticated dog, and chain it 24/7, and see what the odds are that you change it's behavior per increasing the odds that the animal shows more aggression. THAT'S what I'm refering to per environment and behavior.

This is so obvious that it doesn't need to be re-stated. So what? Is there anyone who doesn't know this? The interesting point of this thread is how a coyote responds to care by people, not how a dog can be abused. And I'm not proposing anything. Just interested in learning. It's OK if you're not interested.