Hay yield

[John Fitzgerald]

Last year, just as an experiment, after the second cut I marked off a 40 ft x 40 ft area and put 100 pounds of lime in and a good quantity of lawn fertilizer 29-3-4. By the time for the third cut, I could not tell any difference in growth between my test plot and the rest of the field. Soil test had indicated a need for lime and N. The field is mostly what is called "crawfish land" around here. It is poorly drained during the wet months, but cracks up during drought. We had plenty of rain last year while doing my "test plot".

I hate the turkey litter applications that the neighbor does, but I guess it's either that or mow it myself, or let it grow up. He doesn't want to buy pelletized fertilizer, gets the litter free, but it has bones in it from dead turkey chicks that didn't get picked up, which my dog sometimes picks up.

Wife said she couldn't stand it grown up in weeds and bushes.

 

[smstonypoint]

I hate the turkey litter applications that the neighbor does, but I guess it's either that or mow it myself, or let it grow up. ......

Wife said she couldn't stand it grown up in weeds and bushes.

An alternative would be to plant pines -- Managing Pine Trees in Arkansas - Arkansas Pine Tree management.

Steve

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

I'm afraid my post may have came off as a bit arrogant which was not my intent. The thread contains a lot of useful info and advice. Here's a couple things to consider. When you talk fertilizer talk "units" not pounds. Most soil samples will give you recommendations in units. Lets say your sample calls for 46 units of Nitrogen per acre and you use Urea as the N source and it's 46% that will equal 100lbs of Urea per acre. Ask whoever you get to do the soil sample weather they are on a 3 year or 5 year build up. Most soil samples in KY are ran through U of K and they use a 5 year plan. A and L and Waters Labs uses a 3 year plan and will likewise recommend more fertilizer. Somewhere near 25% legume, most times red clover, is recommended in hay fields. Even though legumes will add N to the soil it wont add enough to feed itself and get top notch grass yields. Will N hurt established clover? U of K research shows that red clover does not persist as well in todays soil weather N is added or not. The microbe makeup has changed. Hope this is helpful. Holler back.

 

[M5farms]

I'm afraid my post may have came off as a bit arrogant which was not my intent. The thread contains a lot of useful info and advice. Here's a couple things to consider. When you talk fertilizer talk "units" not pounds. Most soil samples will give you recommendations in units. Lets say your sample calls for 46 units of Nitrogen per acre and you use Urea as the N source and it's 46% that will equal 100lbs of Urea per acre. Ask whoever you get to do the soil sample weather they are on a 3 year or 5 year build up. Most soil samples in KY are ran through U of K and they use a 5 year plan. A and L and Waters Labs uses a 3 year plan and will likewise recommend more fertilizer. Somewhere near 25% legume, most times red clover, is recommended in hay fields. Even though legumes will add N to the soil it wont add enough to feed itself and get top notch grass yields. Will N hurt established clover? U of K research shows that red clover does not persist as well in todays soil weather N is added or not. The microbe makeup has changed. Hope this is helpful. Holler back.

My soil test shows # and I have always figured in pounds . 46-0-0 it takes 217# per acre to give you 100# recommendation . Other parts of the country may use units but I suspect its just an alternative for pounds

 

[StuartDK45SE]

My soil test shows # and I have always figured in pounds . 46-0-0 it takes 217# per acre to give you 100# recommendation . Other parts of the country may use units but I suspect its just an alternative for pounds

My soil analysis, done by Texas A&M University, has always come back in recommendations in pounds per acre as well.

 

[smstonypoint]

My soil test shows # and I have always figured in pounds . 46-0-0 it takes 217# per acre to give you 100# recommendation . Other parts of the country may use units but I suspect its just an alternative for pounds

Just curious. Are you using the University of Florida lab?

Steve

 

[M5farms]

Just curious. Are you using the University of Florida lab?

Steve

Auburn University

 

[smstonypoint]

Auburn University

Per Lewis Grizzard -- Clemson without a lake.

Steve

 

[M5farms]

Per Lewis Grizzard -- Clemson without a lake.

Steve

well , I just cant stand to send money to GAYtors even tho the they have a top notch ag program.

GO NOLES.

 

[smstonypoint]

GO NOLES.

Oh my. Showing my willpower, i will resist the temptation to cite Steve Spurrier's definition of FSU.

Steve