Offroad Normand Trailer Purchase

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Haoleguy

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Since there are not many posts about Normand products( Company Normand - History ) and less so for their trailers I thought I would share my recent purchase of a small vineyard trailer.

My selection towards Normand was based on specific requirements for a vineyard use trailer. My rows between vines are narrow at 84 inches on center(less when considering posts and canopy hedge) and I wanted the trailer to be no wider than 54 inches as that would match my tractor width. Target length would be 7-8 ft and deck height around 2ft. My requirements were to carry between 1.25 and 2 tons of materials. I needed at least 50 inches inside bed width to handle 1 ton bins or lugs for grapes at harvest. The bed should be able to dump so that I can carry rock, stone, & brush. When you look at these requirements it means an over-deck design and to keep the bed height in the 2 ft range a walking beam construction that would allow good weight capacity.

So when I first started looking through my tractor dealer(AgroTrend & John BM Manufacturing) or online(Pronovost, Pro-Haul = King Kutter, Taylor-Way & others) I could not find exactly what I was looking for. At this time it became clear to me that there is a balance between trailer materials weight and how that eats up weight capacity. So finding capacity capability and durability is a fine line. So I contacted my local welder to see if he could build me a trailer as he is well known for quality truck flatbeds. He did not have time to track materials down so I did that and quickly learned how to match spindles, hubs, wheels, and tires to get the most weight carrying capability in a small package. Things dragged on with my welder so I abandoned local build and started checking around again. The folks at Pro-Haul were terrific and willing to make a longer trailer from their King Kutter XB design but weight capacity was still a slight issue. It was searching through online equipment sites that I saw what Normand was offering in the same category through dealers in Canada. I sent them an email and got a response back that they could sell direct into the US. After going back and forth on details it was clear that the gauge metal used was thicker, the hubs & spindles were heavier duty, and with a tire upgrade I could carry more weight than the competitor could offer. Also the sides fold down or can be taken off completely to get a flat deck. The fit and finish look great. I have used it very little thus far as I just received it but in the coming weeks and months I will report back on how things are working with this little trailer on several tasks. Heres' a few pics.......Gary
 

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That is a nice little trailer. I could use one like that for firewood.

Chris
 
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Yea, that would be slick behind the RTV !:thumbsup:
 
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They do offer a manual pump or electric pump for the dump function so that you can pull it with an ATV and dump.....Gary
 
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Normand make some good products, I have a snowblower they make and a hay wagon.
 
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I know this is an old post, but are you able to update on the trailer? I'm going to look at the same one today.

I'm somewhat concerned that axle design doesn't offer the ground clearance of a true walking beam.
 
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I know this is an old post, but are you able to update on the trailer? I'm going to look at the same one today.

I'm somewhat concerned that axle design doesn't offer the ground clearance of a true walking beam.

I’m still very pleased with the product. Use it all the time in 5 acre vineyard and surrounding 37 acres. I do not go over large objects with it but generally performs well on open land. I woul purchase this trailer again.
 
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I知 still very pleased with the product. Use it all the time in 5 acre vineyard and surrounding 37 acres. I do not go over large objects with it but generally performs well on open land. I woul purchase this trailer again.
Thanks for the reply.

I ended up purchasing the trailer for $2k, which wasn't a steal but it was in excellent shape and I think you'd be had pressed to find anything in this size that is built as solid. I was considering a MUTS, DR Versa or T-Rex type trailer, but I think I'll be happier with this one.

It came equipped with a hydraulic (2 way) dump... the only issue being none of my haulers have rear remotes (yet) so I've been unloading it by hand.

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Hysyde - That is pretty close to a steal for the quality of the trailer. What length is yours? This summer I need to free up the latches at the side corners so they operate more freely. There might be a pump option that you can retrofit for the trailer. I know many of these trailers came with either manual pump or hydraulic setups. Congrats.
 
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Hysyde - That is pretty close to a steal for the quality of the trailer. What length is yours? This summer I need to free up the latches at the side corners so they operate more freely. There might be a pump option that you can retrofit for the trailer. I know many of these trailers came with either manual pump or hydraulic setups. Congrats.
I took measurements when I bought it, but they escape me now. I believe it's the exact same trailer as yours, looking at the pics.

I may try to retro a 12v hydraulic setup from a friend's on-road dump trailer that's rotted out. There's not a lot of room on that tongue though and as far as I know, most 12v hydro dumps are 1-way and use the bed weight to retract.

I'm hoping to just put remotes on something soon....
 
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So a friend wanted to borrow the trailer to support some excavation he was doing. He didn't want to use a tractor to dump, so he asked if he could add a 12v hydraulic system off an old dump trailer he had. I was reluctant as he has a habit of cobbling things together in a hurry, but he did a pretty decent job and only welded on the one plate to hold the pump (which fit conveniently under the box) and drilled a couple of holes for the quick connect wiring (power supply and pump controls). The trailer doesn't have much room to mount a battery out of the way anywhere and I told him I didn't want it outside the tongue as I sometimes like to jackknife it. So he decided to use tow vehicle power via booster cables that quick connect to the trailer through a plow harness power supply. It works perfectly with my Kubota as the battery is readily accessible. A battery could always be temporarily mounted to the tongue and he maintained the existing hydraulic hoses and couplers on the trailer if I ever want to hook it to a tractor. The only thing I'd like to see different is the "return" line coming from the cylinder. It's just dead ended with a "vent" that seems to weep a tiny bit of oil (as it's a single action pump). I would've maybe drilled into the hydraulic tank and used a couple to feed it back into there. It works well though and raises fast and comes down relatively good by gravity.
 

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So a friend wanted to borrow the trailer to support some excavation he was doing. He didn't want to use a tractor to dump, so he asked if he could add a 12v hydraulic system off an old dump trailer he had. I was reluctant as he has a habit of cobbling things together in a hurry, but he did a pretty decent job and only welded on the one plate to hold the pump (which fit conveniently under the box) and drilled a couple of holes for the quick connect wiring (power supply and pump controls). The trailer doesn't have much room to mount a battery out of the way anywhere and I told him I didn't want it outside the tongue as I sometimes like to jackknife it. So he decided to use tow vehicle power via booster cables that quick connect to the trailer through a plow harness power supply. It works perfectly with my Kubota as the battery is readily accessible. A battery could always be temporarily mounted to the tongue and he maintained the existing hydraulic hoses and couplers on the trailer if I ever want to hook it to a tractor. The only thing I'd like to see different is the "return" line coming from the cylinder. It's just dead ended with a "vent" that seems to weep a tiny bit of oil (as it's a single action pump). I would've maybe drilled into the hydraulic tank and used a couple to feed it back into there. It works well though and raises fast and comes down relatively good by gravity.

If you told me that was factory I'd would've believed you. Going to get spoiled now.. ;)
 

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