Looking For Advice for Building Berms

   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #1  

gottaearnit

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I was hoping to get some advice from the more experienced on the best way to go about building berms / raised beds on a farm. I just bought a little over 50 acres last year and I'm planning on putting in a 12-15 acre orchard. Probably try to establish 5 acres at a time for the next three years. I've done a lot of research looking at hillers, row builders, bed shapers, etc. From what I can tell, many of them are designed to get 4" to 8" in height with rows spaced minimally to get the most rows per acre. In my situation, I would like to build 12"-18" high berms between 48" and 60" wide spaced about 30 foot apart. What would you guys recommend for the best approach to this. I currently have a Ford 3415 and a CAT 236D skid steer. I would love to utilize one of those if possible. I don't mind putting money out for the right attachments, but they will be used a couple of times to put in the orchard and then probably never needed again. Just want to make sure I put the money into the right approach first. As well, I have been a machinist for over 25 years and have my own machine shop, so building something custom is not out of the question.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #2  
:welcome:
To the TBN forum. You have come to the right place to get answers.

Sorry that I can't help but the wife wants to put in fruit trees so I am interested in what you find out.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #3  
You have two realistic options.


A Lilliston Lehman Rolling cultivator or a Northwest Tiller strawberry bedder to make raised beds. The Lilliston rolling cultivator will need land preparation meaning plowing, discing, rock picking, then ridge bed building.

A Northwest tiller will let you till annually and build new beds every year but a mechanical picker will be a must to make the job easier after the first pass with a plow and small disc harrow. Using a rock picker in the orchard rows before planting the trees will aid the root growth of the trees there too.

You could use the strawberry bedder to make the first orchard rows as well by creating a raised bed to to keep the roots from becoming infected with root blight.

As far as orchard building goes you should examine the espallier method of orchard construction where the fruit trees are planted close together and the tree limbs are trained to follow fence lines made from bare wire like grape vines. it reduces the work needed to trim, prune and spray fruit trees and permits easier work in an orchard when harvesting as the fruit is only as high as the fence lines highest wire.
The fruit production is more concentrated with more trees in each row and the fruit from the trees is no different in quality and much larger and you can simply till in manure and compost in the row and lay down weed fabric on both sides of the raised bed fence posts to eliminate weeds.
 
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Thanks for the input Leonz. I should have mentioned that the orchard is going to be chestnut trees. I don't think the espallier method would be an option, but I will take a look at the attachments you recommended.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #5  
I think you need to rethink your design. Every 5ft of berm length you are going to move 1 cubic yard of dirt. I'm using your numbers to determine that. Averaging your berm width and height. Wow. So how many feet of berm are you building per acre? Times 5 acres. Times .2 cubic yards of dirt per foot. Wow.

Maybe hire a farmer to come in with a moldboard plow and create dead furrows every 35 feet?
 
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Hi Ovrszd. I want to put in 11 berms (@30 ft spacing) about 650 ft in length. I want to elevate the planting beds for the chestnuts due to the clay soil here in NC. They definitely don't do good with wet feet.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #7  
So 11 x 650ft = 7,150ft. 7,150 x .2 = 1,430 cubic yards of material.

That's significant. If hauling that material with my 5 cubic yard scraper I would have to load/unload 286 times.

Is your plan to excavate the material from between the berms? If so aren't you stripping all the top soil from between the berms to build them? What is expected to grow in this stripped area?
 
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I figured if I took 3" of depth from the 25' available between berms, that would give me 15" high x 60" wide berms. Should leave me plenty to plant turf type grasses for the orchard floor.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #9  
Would you be able you use a tiller to loosen up the soil, and then use a HEAVY rear blade to grade the soil to the berms? Then use the skid steer for the finishing touches.
 
   / Looking For Advice for Building Berms #10  
I figured if I took 3" of depth from the 25' available between berms, that would give me 15" high x 60" wide berms. Should leave me plenty to plant turf type grasses for the orchard floor.

Yep. That will work.

As suggested by airbiscuit till it heavily to completely break up the sod. This will make it much easier to move and shape. Then you'll have to till the valleys again to get it loose enough to reseed. Not familiar with your topsoil thickness. You are probably going to be down to bare clay in most areas. This project is going to take many, many, many hours. But it'll be good for your Soul. :)
 
 

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