Oil & Fuel First hydraulic oil change?

[ForestGrump]

Notice the OM says to change out the hydraulic oil at the first 50 hours, is this real? EMAX 22

 

[RNeumann]

Yes! The first change is an effort to get any debris, lapping compounds, break in oil and grease out of the system. Plus the front axle may take a different fluid than the factory stuff if you are in a cooler climate.

 

[AchingBack]

Yes! The first change is an effort to get any debris, lapping compounds, break in oil and grease out of the system. Plus the front axle may take a different fluid than the factory stuff if you are in a cooler climate.

Why wouldn't those contaminants be collected in the filter, are they too small to escape filtration?

 

[RNeumann]

I don't think it's about the filter not grabbing debris as the filter is also changed at the 50 hour mark. It is common to change fluids and filter when new or rebuilt at a shorter first interval.

 

[RalphVa]

I'd like to see tractor manufacturers find out a way to eliminate this quite troublesome thing and waste of huge amounts of oil. Cars and trucks used to require oil and filter changes after only (around) 1,000 miles or so. Now, they typically allow you to go to the routine 7.5-15k oil change interval the 1st time.

Reasons are as given above by others, but I'd think they should find out a way to blow out or flush out these metal particles and shavings at the factory where it could really be better controlled and checked.

 

[Goreef]

Change the hydraulic oil and filter. Also clean the suction screen. You will be amazed at how much metal will come out and the amount that is in the oil itself. This is just the normal break in for all the moving parts while they are getting to know each other.

 

[rdinatal]

This is the same oil that goes through the rams and hoses, right? Think of how many items, length and connections...

That's a lot of area that might have some assembly contamination.

-R

 

[AchingBack]

When I did the 50 hr. service on my 2615, the original hydraulic fluid looked every bit as good as the new fluid.

 

[burzynsr]

Its not how the fluid looks, we know that 50 hours will not deteriorate the fluid. It should be changed to remove the contaminants. In my experience the suction screen is where most of the crud collects. What the heck, you won't have to do it again until the 1000 hour mark. It is just cheap insurance to keep the machine as close to new as possible.

 

[RalphVa]

I never found anything on the suction screens of my JD 4010 nor the 2025R. Didn't do the suction screen on the 1025R lemon because it's too much of a pain to get the hose loose. Recommend disconnecting the pipes on it: has a connection joint in the line.

Ralph

 

[oosik]

Wow, Ralph - you must be almost as old as I am. You can remember when oil changes were done every 1000 miles - ha,ha.
At 50 hours I changed EVERYTHING on my tractor. I wasn't cheap but then you look at the price you just laid out for the new tractor.

Besides a new tractor is still under warrantee at 50 hours and if you do have problems you don't want to get tangled up with lack of maintenance issues.

And yes, at 50 hours my 15 gallons of hydraulic fluid looked brand new, but I used it to soak many wooden fence posts in.

 

[moriboy]

I had two different experiences with changing out hydraulic oil on my new machines. My tractor has two filters that both have magnets on the faces. Those magnets were full of very fine metal particles. In fact I don't think there was any room for the magnets to grab anything more.

On my excavator, the first service to the hydraulic system revealed nothing in any of the filters. I even cut them open to take a closer look.

I do know that most of the particles on the magnetic filters were likely cast iron that came from the cases, which the excavator doesn't have.

 

[tmcj]

I just recently changed the fluids & filters on my Max 26XL. I didn't know anything about a suction screen anywhere. Where might this be, and I'm guessing that I probably can't do it now without draining the fluid again? If I used a clean container I could put it back in but will it be worth the hassle at this point?

 

[Deleted member 314313]

Dealership just informed Friday that the Service Rep changed the 50hr Hydraulic/Trans suction oil filter and screen strainer schedule to 100hours. Interesting that both Owners and Service Manuals list 50hrs. Also interesting that the manuals inform to clean the strainer at every Hydraulic oil change which is listed at every 1000hrs. Manuals do not inform to change Trans oil at 50hrs or 100hrs. Just to change the filter and clean the strainer at 50hr thereafter every 400hrs. Better safe than sorry. I am changing the Hydraulic oil on my 2016 3550 PST Tier IV at 84Hrs. I'll clean and reuse the oil in my knuckle-boom truck.

 

[rdinatal]

Anyone know what the Mahindra "Universal Tractor Fluid" is?? What's the spec??

There's a TSC close and will be getting it there...

-R

 

[dickfoster]

Anyone know what the Mahindra "Universal Tractor Fluid" is?? What's the spec??

There's a TSC close and will be getting it there...

-R

This is what I put in mine. It lists Mahindra on the label.

Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid - For Life Out Here

 

[oldpilgrim]

This is what I put in mine. It lists Mahindra on the label.

Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid - For Life Out Here

Me too......

 

[JerryK]

This is what I put in mine. It lists Mahindra on the label.

Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid - For Life Out Here

Me, Three ....

 

[RNeumann]

I use Chevron THF (I think) 1000. My local oil distributor sells it cheap- even cheaper if you bring in your own bucket/container

 

[rdinatal]

This is what I put in mine. It lists Mahindra on the label.

Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid - For Life Out Here

Thanks, TSC has it on sale now. I only need 4gal so the tub would be a waste.

Traveller Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid, 2 gal
$11.99 Was $14.99 Save $3.00

-R