Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it....

/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #61  
If it does get that much in repairs it gets flagged and the insurance companies drop you.

My good friends wife slid off the road last year. It did about $5,500 damage to a $25,000 car. His insurance company totaled it out and a local body shop purchased it for about $5,000. They did the repairs and my friend bought it back only to find out he could not get it insured. None of the 5 or so major carriers he called would touch it due to the liability.

It ended up in a 6 month court battle.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #62  
Sister in law had a 5 month old Honda Odyssee Touring fully loaded... her girlfriend drove to Starbucks and it was T-boned by a transit bus... girlfriends fault for running a stop sign...

This was a 43k sticker car that sustained 31k damage... insurance insisted of fixing...

There were also problems with repairs... the insurance recommended body shop submitted a very detailed bid... replace many body panels with OEM Honda which they did NOT do... and my brother took them to task on it and the insurance company because if you use the recommended company the repairs are warranted for as long as you own the car...

It got really nasty and he got the State involved for fraud complaint... charging for OEM and not delivering or repairing when charged for replacement... over two months of car rental too...

It's been 8 years and no tire wear or other problems... the only ones saying repair was the adjuster...
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #63  
My understanding is that if a car has a salvage title, it's hard to get collision insurance. You should be able to get liability insurance on anything that can be licensed. Part of the risk of a salvage vehicle.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #64  
My understanding is that if a car has a salvage title, it's hard to get collision insurance. You should be able to get liability insurance on anything that can be licensed. Part of the risk of a salvage vehicle.
The main company's won't touch a salvage period around here.

Makes sense. They don't want to be liable for something that may not be put back together right, hence no liability insurance.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #65  
My friend in the Utility Upfitting Business got a visit from the Ford Rep today. Apparently Ford will offer all kinds of hardware to deal with steel to alum. transition. I'd like to see that price list. And, it is apparently essential that such fasteners be torqued appropriately. What a FREAKIN nightmare!
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #66  
A new member of the aluminum club: in 2015 GM made the Suburban hood and tailgate out of aluminum, to reduce weight. So it "only" weighs 6,015 lbs....
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #68  
Same thing and worse has happened to many steel bodied vehicles before that; hence the "not responsible for damages" disclaimer at all the automatic car washes around. Does suck extra bad when ya ignore such disclaimers and it happens to you though...
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #69  
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #70  
Same thing and worse has happened to many steel bodied vehicles before that; hence the "not responsible for damages" disclaimer at all the automatic car washes around. Does suck extra bad when ya ignore such disclaimers and it happens to you though...

That disclaimer doesn't absolve them from damage due to negligence if it does any good at all. Wife drove her car through a car wash a while back and a durn come-a-long was stuck in the roller. It beat the crap our of her car and I made them pay for the damages. No way to know if the come-a-long was snatched out of someones truck or if they were using it to hold something together in the car wash. My guess is the latter. The Store owner tried to pull that "Not Responsible" stuff on me. I told him to expect a call from my attorney and he changed his tune.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #71  
No, it wouldn't absolve them in that case. But in a situation where a perfection functioning brush grabbed a perfectly mounted antenna and ripped it loose, especially in a situation where there are instructions to remove such items (which is common), most courts would find it to be "no fault". You can see from the images of that guy's antenna, something had a really good hold on it and it wrapped around the wash brush a couple times before pulling loose. There was a lot of force involved in that.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #72  
I had my 100 gallon L shaped slip tank in the back of my 06 Cummins. Their guys inspected the truck and said it was good to go. Pulled thru and the spinning brush caught the hose on the pump and ripped the tank that was bolted to the bed out. Tank was completely full and it tipped it over. Had a couple nice size holes in the bed. There was zero signage about not being responsible for damage. I talked to the manager and they agreed to pay for a Bedliner to be sprayed. I repaired the holes a little and it was sprayed. Turned out fine. Don't go thru them anymore though.

Brett
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #73  
That is the best advice of all. Don't go thru brush type car washes. They are bad for your finish anyway I think.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #74  
I don't think I could afford to pay for the repairs on a steel or aluminum F-150. Holy crap that seem expensive.

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/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #75  
I don't think I could afford to pay for the repairs on a steel or aluminum F-150. Holy crap that seem expensive.

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The vast majority of the price difference is the brand new design LED tail light with the distance sensors in it. The same went for the headlights too. The old one was cheap compared to the new LED headlight.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #76  
I personally think that is totally bogus myself. It says the aluminum bed needed replaced, but that doesn't jive with the fact that the new beds are made totally modular. The newer repair processes are to replace the outer skins, the floor, the wheelwells, the front bulkhead, whatever is needed as individual components.

Looking at the photo, you can see there are no reverse sensors in the bumper, and the tailgate surround is the plain black plastic. This indicates it is a lower trim level and wouldn't have had the BLIS tail lights with the radar module.

There are actually a few variations of the new tail lights on the aluminum generation of F150. There are basic old incandescent lights, there are the base LEDs, and there are the LEDs that have the blindspot monitoring radar built in. Prices range from $200 to $700 for a pair of light assemblies, even more if you need the actual radar modules as well. The light needed in that image would cost about $120 shipped to your door.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #77  
That is the best advice of all. Don't go thru brush type car washes. They are bad for your finish anyway I think.

Amen to that. I wash all my stuff with low pressure water and microfiber towels most of the time. Occasionally I will go through a high quality touchless spray wash.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #78  
I have never taken any of my vehicles thru an automated car wash. My vehicles get washed, at home, 2X annually - spring & fall.

IMHO - anybody that can afford the price of a new pickup can surely afford the insurance deductible if they get damage.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #79  
That is the best advice of all. Don't go thru brush type car washes. They are bad for your finish anyway I think.

That is the best advice. All they do is swirl your paint. If you want to go through a drive thru car wash go through a touchless.
 
/ Got a newer Ford? Dont dent it.... #80  
I have a beer can F150...IF I went through a car wash I'd take the antenna off before entering. Problem solved. And heck I couldn't afford body repairs on my previous 2011 anymore than I can on my 2016 which why I have insurance.
 

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