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/ California #61  
We have been in CA since Feb on 4 different construction projects. In Feb everyone answered the phone and came a runn'n. Now, you get voice mail with maybe I'll call you back.
 
/ California #62  
What kind of projects?
 
/ California #63  
Real Estate is always cyclical... at least I have gone through several downturns plus I remember walking past boarded up homes in Oakland on the way to school.

The city would sell the home of $1 to a person that moved in and made improvements and after 5 years you would have clear title...

Mostly painting, a new roof, cleanup would be enough to meet the fixing part.

Now those homes that went for a $1 back in the 70's are pushing 400k!

The houses aren't really worth anymore, it's just that the dollars used to buy them is worth so much less. No one is getting anything for nothing and they never will.
 
/ California #64  
But a dollar in 1976 to $400,000 in 2016 is more than the dollar losing value.

Even as late as 2012 homes were selling far below the replacement cost... it was great time to be home shopping...

Four years later the same homes have doubled around here...

In other areas the multiple is even higher... that is just how strong the present market is.
 
/ California #66  
We have been in La Jolla, San Jose, Walnut Creek, and Torrance.
Have two more soon. I would prefer to just say we are specialty contractors...

Are you an assassin? How cool is that?:laughing:
 
/ California #68  
Steppenwolfe... what are your impressions of Walnut Creek?

The reason I ask is this is still a very much in demand region with lower priced and high end homes within a few miles...

Lot of higher end retail still going into to downtown Walnut Creek and all the new housing is gobbled up fast.
 
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/ California #69  
What are your impressions of Walnut Creek?
That question is a bit random... unless I am missing something. That said, in the 80s that was where I said I wouldn't mind living... I was delivering TVs and VCRs to 'rich' people moving out to bigger homes. Living in Berkeley at the time. No idea what the place is like now... it was sort of brand new in 35 years ago.
 
/ California #72  
Reading the articles about the economy there, I have to admit that I'm surprised. My friends that still live there have not said anything positive about life there in a very long time. Every year, more of them are moving away because of the taxes, congestion and crime. If you live there, you know that there are huge areas that you just avoid, and those areas are growing in size. Where I lived in San Leandro, we drove past 3 grocery stores to get to the safe one. We only went to the mall in the morning, or we drove to the mall in the Valley. It wasn't just a fear of being robbed, the beggers where overwhelming and vandalism to your car was common.

A neighbor that I grew up with worked for a phone company there all his life. About five years ago then relocated to Nevada and offered him a job there at a lower pay scale if he wanted to keep his job. He declined and was out of work for over a year before finding a warehouse job with Amazon. That was also a big cut in pay, but he was able to stay in his house and not have to move.

Those in the dot com industry are dong good, but another buddy who was with google said it wasn't worth the money. He quit a good six figure job for another job paying half of what he made just have a life and get to know his kids.
 
/ California #74  
If purchasing a west cost retirement property. The state of Oregon would be my choice vs over taxed and over regulated California . Should be able to avoid snow in some location . Still going to be flattened by an earthquake someday. Oregon is upwind of Yellowstone Park when it blows up .
 
/ California #75  
Some do leave and come back...

Many are happy with their move and some wonder why they did not do it sooner.

It has to be a boost when you sell a modest 1940's home of 30 years and pocket 500k in cash and buy elsewhere keeping a big chunk of cash.

Portland and Seattle areas are having their own issues with high cost of housing...

Just across the California boarder in Oregon... there is an entire industry that caters to California ex-pats.

One thing to remember is the Bay Area, LA and San Diego covers only a very small area of the State...

Leaving these areas the cost of living drops dramatically... even things like vehicle emission requirements fall away.

One of our good family friends moved back to Georgia for retirement... he had been 40 years in California... he needed some surgeries and found it advantageous to return to California as he would have needed to pay out of pocket in Georgia... he was 61 and his union coverage is through Kaiser HMO

I sure wish I knew what the cards hold... I did venture out State to Washington State and got hammered by property tax when 18 months after I bought the Assessor appraised me for 80% over what I had paid...

One thing is for sure... a lot of people are seeing the Bay Area as a place to make your money and then cash out...

Eddie... I still shop at the Safeway at 500 Bancroft...
 
/ California #76  
I thought Kaiser has gone under.
 
/ California #77  
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/ California #78  
Some do leave and come back...

Many are happy with their move and some wonder why they did not do it sooner.

It has to be a boost when you sell a modest 1940's home of 30 years and pocket 500k in cash and buy elsewhere keeping a big chunk of cash.

Portland and Seattle areas are having their own issues with high cost of housing...

Just across the California boarder in Oregon... there is an entire industry that caters to California ex-pats.

One thing to remember is the Bay Area, LA and San Diego covers only a very small area of the State...

Leaving these areas the cost of living drops dramatically... even things like vehicle emission requirements fall away.

One of our good family friends moved back to Georgia for retirement... he had been 40 years in California... he needed some surgeries and found it advantageous to return to California as he would have needed to pay out of pocket in Georgia... he was 61 and his union coverage is through Kaiser HMO

I sure wish I knew what the cards hold... I did venture out State to Washington State and got hammered by property tax when 18 months after I bought the Assessor appraised me for 80% over what I had paid...

One thing is for sure... a lot of people are seeing the Bay Area as a place to make your money and then cash out...

Eddie... I still shop at the Safeway at 500 Bancroft...

Exactly what we did. Spent most of life in So Calif. Had a really good job.....retired at 50. Sold the house.......paid cash for a nice place w/acreage. Have never looked back. We go back a couple times a year to see kids and grandkids........love seeing them.....you can have So. Calif. I do enjoy the No. Calif coast and the Oregon Coast......we travel them frequently. Wouldn't live in Seattle or Portland.....way too many people. Sorry to hear about your assessment problem.......our area is rural and we don't have that issue. Cost of living is much lower for us. We are close enough to Oregon to shop there for bigger items.....no sales tax. Life is good.
 
/ California #79  
Yep... I'm in Thurston County and my taxes went from $6800 to $12,000 in one jump after I-747 was tossed... my neighbors all experienced the same...

Home on 16+ very pretty acres with a little creek where a few salmon spawn... real peaceful and serene.

It $1000 a month property taxes really give my pause to re-evaluate my long range plans...

A typical move of one of my retired friends is to be closer to kids and grand kids who made lives outside California...
 
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