Buying Advice CK2610 vs Kubota

[12Bravo]

Ok everyone........ I pulled the trigger........ I went with the CK2610 HST. It will be delivered next week.
I want to thank everyone for your input and willingness to offer some great advice!
I will post more pictures and maybe a video when it's delivered.


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You will enjoy it, congratulations on the new purchase!

 

[12Bravo]

Finally, an OP who could make a final decision with less than 100 posts in the thread.

Congratulations.

:laughing:

 

[oldpilgrim]

Don't know how much snow you get where you are, but you will be SO glad you got an hst over a gear version after your first storm.

Congrats. Kioti's are great little beasts.

 

[paulfun9]

I am. I've had both gear and HST. HST is all I'll ever have again.

I'm still not so sure!

You see your constantly shifting with your foot as you go while I can simply pick the right gear let the clutch out once and go. IS it not work to hold that HST pedal constantly? For me its actually more tiresome than having to switch a gear even with the clutch when I have to work on the hills. Flicking a switch on the dash for forward or reverse here and there compared to using my leg/foot constantly to change direction also feels like a big difference after a day in the fields.

Yesterday I pushed in the clutch 2 times. Once to start the tractor moving and once again when I came back to the barn to park it. If the time was spent on the HST I would have been holding that pedal for hours.

 

[coobie]

I'm still not so sure!

You see your constantly shifting with your foot as you go while I can simply pick the right gear let the clutch out once and go. IS it not work to hold that HST pedal constantly? For me its actually more tiresome than having to switch a gear even with the clutch when I have to work on the hills. Flicking a switch on the dash for forward or reverse here and there compared to using my leg/foot constantly to change direction also feels like a big difference after a day in the fields.It,s your story tell it as you see fit.

Yesterday I pushed in the clutch 2 times. Once to start the tractor moving and once again when I came back to the barn to park it. If the time was spent on the HST I would have been holding that pedal for hours.

Cruise control on a HST is your friend.No constant shifting.I have to call BS on you only shifting 2 times when you left the barn and came back.Did you drive down the road or just move 10ft.?Did you engage any implements?I have owned shuttle shift tractors for 30 plus years and can NEVER remember shifting only 2 times from start to finish.But hey its your story.LOL...

 

[paulfun9]

Cruise control on a HST is your friend.No constant shifting.I have to call BS on you only shifting 2 times when you left the barn and came back.Did you drive down the road or just move 10ft.?Did you engage any implements?I have owned shuttle shift tractors for 30 plus years and can NEVER remember shifting only 2 times from start to finish.But hey its your story.LOL...

I haven't found one cruise system that actually holds its speed constant.

Call bull on anything you want! I would say by your statement that your not nearly the operator you think you are and you also have no Idea what chore I was doing or how far from the barn I might have had to venture.

I don't like cruise control on the HST nearly as much as I like the more constant and easy to adjust throttle pedal on a gear machine. WHen the HST needs adjusted I have to release the cruise to get threw the ruff spot then try and find the exact setting I was at for the next part of the field while with the gear its just a little light push on the throttle then let it fall back on the adjustment I have previously set with the hand throttle and knowing the exact speed at which the machine travels by its RPM and gear I have no need for a expensive GPS/computer controlled cruise or any other device that is a band aid on the system.

 

[coobie]

I haven't found one cruise system that actually holds its speed constant.

Call bull on anything you want! I would say by your statement that your not nearly the operator you think you are and you also have no Idea what chore I was doing or how far from the barn I might have had to venture.

I don't like cruise control on the HST nearly as much as I like the more constant and easy to adjust throttle pedal on a gear machine. WHen the HST needs adjusted I have to release the cruise to get threw the ruff spot then try and find the exact setting I was at for the next part of the field while with the gear its just a little light push on the throttle then let it fall back on the adjustment I have previously set with the hand throttle and knowing the exact speed at which the machine travels by its RPM and gear I have no need for a expensive GPS/computer controlled cruise or any other device that is a band aid on the system.[/QUOTE Ok got it,YAWN...

 

[IslandTractor]

I agree there are specific tractor uses for which geared rather than hydrostatic transmission would be an advantage, but arguing that gear saves you from moving your ankle joint an inch or two when you want to change speeds or direction.....are you kidding us?? Can you drive a car? Does that wear you out?? Maybe you need Geritol.

And, unless you have your custom solenoid activated shuttle shift lever mounted on your FEL joystick or steering wheel, I'm guessing you let go of one of those every time you change direction doing loader work. How convenient.

 

[K man]

I use the cruise control on my CK 30 HST most of the time blowing my long driveway or down the road and have no issues with it. It keeps the ground speed that I set it at and stays there till I turn it off.

 

[oldpilgrim]

from another thread I posted in discussing gear vs hst:

I'm 6'3", 225 lbs, size 11 foot.

What I find cramps my leg on a gear machine is when I move snow or dirt. With snow, clutch down, shift into gear, push snow with bucket, clutch down, shift into R to position, clutch down to stop, shift into first to get to where I dump, clutch up, move to dump location, clutch down to stop, dump, clutch down, shift to R, clutch up, back up, clutch down, shift into F, clutch up, repeat several hundred or a thousand times to clear a 600-800 ft driveway. Do this for an hour or so, then do the same thing for a neighbor. With deep snow, my left leg hardly ever stops going up and down. Talk about thigh burn ! When I got off the machine I could hardly walk. I did this for nearly 25 years.

Now I just gently rock my foot back and forth. I can run the machine all day without a single ache or pain.

I like the fact that I can make those wheels turn so slowly, that it's barely perceptible. I can drive up to a truck to dump with tremendous precision and not worry about hitting the truck.

And since the machine is designed to run like that, I'm not hurting a clutch disk nor worrying about wearing it out with slippage.

I will restate..... I will never have another gear again....hst is the only way to go.

 

[IslandTractor]

from another thread I posted in discussing gear vs hst:

Shuttle shift would relieve you of the foot work but even shuttle isn't as easy as HST for loader work.

 

[Teachu2]

It's funny, the constant "debate" over which is "better" - gears or HST. In the end, nobody is convinced of anything, except that the other side is wrong - which we all knew anyway. We all have our personal preferences and biases. I'm happy with my gears, the HST guys are happy with their HSTs, and that's all that matters.

 

[K man]

I agree those that have HST will say it is better than gear and vice versa. It is too each their own I guess, we all prefer differently.

 

[IslandTractor]

HST vs gear in CUTs isn't that different from standard vs slush box in cars and trucks. There is a role for both but the trend is clear.

 

[murphy1244]

Buy both, I did.

 

[VTland2clear]

HST vs gear in CUTs isn't that different from standard vs slush box in cars and trucks. There is a role for both but the trend is clear.

Exactly, and sometimes we don't always want a slushbox. But for the majority of the time, it is a life saver.

 

[paulfun9]

I agree there are specific tractor uses for which geared rather than hydrostatic transmission would be an advantage, but arguing that gear saves you from moving your ankle joint an inch or two when you want to change speeds or direction.....are you kidding us?? Can you drive a car? Does that wear you out?? Maybe you need Geritol.

And, unless you have your custom solenoid activated shuttle shift lever mounted on your FEL joystick or steering wheel, I'm guessing you let go of one of those every time you change direction doing loader work. How convenient.

There is absolutely no comparison between the throttle on any of my cars or trucks compared with the pedal of the HST. The HST takes much more pressure on every single one and the movements are much more constant than when in the car or truck except for maybe city driving.
I have problems with my legs/Knees/Hip and ankles. Old injuries and old age combined and honestly prefer the gear over my HST for most of my work as it takes the least out of me . Maybe I am the odd ball but pushing a clutch here and there seems to be less stiffening for me than holding my leg steady on the HST pedal. I also avoid long drives that wont allow me to use the cruise control in my truck as sitting still with my foot on the gas pedal will also cramp my leg up.

As for people who use their cruise on their tractor and don't think they have a problem with it holding the correct speed that's fine but I ask is your land the same as mine? How many hills? How long are those hills? How much does the slope vary from bottom to top? What jobs are you doing on those hills? Have you ever timed any of those jobs to figure out the best most efficient way to get them done? IF so have you ever timed them with different tractors?

You see when you cut a 3 or 4acres it might not matter much but when you have to cut a 50 acre field small differences become much more noticeable.
When you have to travel 1/4th to 1 mile on relatively flat land to an other field its a little different than traveling 4 miles or more over the mountain to do an other 50+ acre field. Now consider all the possible differences between people and things that can happen to them over time, all the different jobs that could be done with a tractor and the different size and type of properties we have and you can easily see that some of us might not be as comfortable with the same thing as you are especially when you consider the person your trying to convince already owns HST, straight Gear, power shuttle and torque converter tractors and is telling you they prefer one over the other. Maybe its time to accept that not everyone is the same and gear and Power shuttle has their place and those that like and use them have their reasons. Just like the single -vs- dual HST pedal thing one can be a deal breaker for many people for many different reasons weather its a problem for you or not really doesn't matter to me but most of them put my leg in an awkward position no matter how I try I end up cramped and disgusted with them while with the dual pedal I can operate for a few hours without cramping as long as I am not just holding a steady speed for long distances.

I use My HST for chores around the house but rarely stray more than 5 acres from the house. FOr anything beyond that the gear comes out and over time it has proven to be faster at most things with the least impact on me.



I couldn't understand why so many people think using a shuttle shift could be considered hard work when for most chores you rarely have to do anything other than push a lever back and forth that's located near the steering wheel. The question was answered as I drove the other day and watched everyone on the road. It seems no one can figure out how to use a turn signal in their cars and trucks, they don't understand stopping distances and they have no understanding of the need to drive ahead as opposed to what is directly in front of them. They brake at the last possible minute, cant turn without coming to a complete stop no matter which way they are turning or how sharp the turn is, think Yield on a highway ramp means to stop every time and have no Idea how to merge safely with the traffic.. After thinking about it I can understand why so many think HST is the best for everything its because they cant drive their cars and trucks let alone a tractor which requires much more attention and forethought than any car or truck. So with that shuttle shift thing the turn signal lever is located very similar position and it also requires the same type of movement with your fingers as the turn signal and at least on mine it doesn't require me to move my hand from the steering wheel at all just a flick of my finger.

My brother in law was talking about buying a new car but after looking at it online here this morning I will have to tell him he shouldn't bother because it has what is called a paddle shifter located close to the steering wheel and he might not be able to shift gears since he is a die hard HST person

Any way folks have a nice day and enjoy what ever tractor you have because the one thing that holds true for all of them is they sure beat a wheel barrow and shovel !

 

[coobie]

I shifted my HST only 2 times today once to leave the barn & once going back in.

 

[DK35vince]

I shifted my HST only 2 times today once to leave the barn & once going back in.

Sounds boring.

 

[coobie]

Sounds boring.

Ya I know,I am a boring person.LOL