Buying Advice CK2610 vs Kubota

[IslandTractor]

I didn't know I was required to attribute it to anything other than Experience with both! But if you need more then simply show up in the morning with your tractor and we can test them while you help me get some work done.

Unless the experience is with identical tractors other than transmission type, it's hard to draw any conclusions from "experience". We all have our biases. Unless there are controlled experiments the best we can do is try to understand why one might be greatly superior to the other. I cannot think of a reason why geared would climb hills better. I do understand why HST allows for more control downhill.

 

[dadster4]

Loader work and most small jobs involve a lot of back and forth movement which the HST is well suited for...if you like clutching and shifting, go for the gear trans. I groom my half-mile gravel drive which has two stretches of 17% grade and the HST handles it just fine. I use low range 90% of the time, and medium range the other 10%, high is for road use only around here. When I was comparing specs between Kubota and Kioti, the Kioti "won" for the way I was going to be using the tractor, your requirements may be completely different. :confused3:

 

[paulfun9]

Unless the experience is with identical tractors other than transmission type, it's hard to draw any conclusions from "experience". We all have our biases. Unless there are controlled experiments the best we can do is try to understand why one might be greatly superior to the other. I cannot think of a reason why geared would climb hills better. I do understand why HST allows for more control downhill.

Maybe you should go back and read my other post!

 

[jeff9366]

Unless your gear transmission has a specific "creeper" gear the tractor may not move slow enough to use a PTO powered roto-tiller efficiently.

HST is the technology providing creeper gear speeds today.

 

[paulfun9]

I cant remember a time when I wanted to use a creeper gear for traveling from one field to the other or for pulling a load from one place to an other. Also with the proper choices of gears there is no need for fancy computers to help you maintain proper speed, or for the additional cost of cruise control.

Sorry folks but if your trying to convince me HST is the best choice for all my needs your barking up the wrong tree. I have 3 HST machines here at all times and will choose the Gear (more specifically Power shuttle) for most of my work outside the immediate field my house is built on.

I just cant imagine how long it would take me to get out to the other property in creeper gear but I guess if the safety police were around and I didn't want a scolding, I would be forced to worry about how slow I can go while traveling that distance. Probably piss off anyone I encounter on the road much more than I do now and working the fields might take an extra week or two but it would eventually get done maybe before I die of old age

 

[DK35vince]

Unless your gear transmission has a specific "creeper" gear the tractor may not move slow enough to use a PTO powered roto-tiller efficiently.

HST is the technology providing creeper gear speeds today.

My DK 35 had a creeper gear option. I didn't get it.
Even without the creeper gear option my lowest gear is about 1 MPH at full throttle.
I run a 6' tiller and it does a nice job.
My previous gear tractor was about the same tractor. John Deere 850 (26 HP, 22 PTO HP) ran a 5" tiller.

 

[Adj301]

Ok everyone........ I pulled the trigger........ I went with the CK2610 HST. It will be delivered next week.
I want to thank everyone for your input and willingness to offer some great advice!
I will post more pictures and maybe a video when it's delivered.

 

[TripleR]

Congratulations, it will serve you well for many years to come.

 

[IslandTractor]

Ok everyone........ I pulled the trigger........ I went with the CK2610 HST. It will be delivered next week.
I want to thank everyone for your input and willingness to offer some great advice!
I will post more pictures and maybe a video when it's delivered.


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Beauty. It will serve you well.

 

[jeff9366]

Finally, an OP who could make a final decision with less than 100 posts in the thread.

Congratulations.

 

[PhysAssist]

Finally, an OP who could make a final decision in less than 100 posts in the thread.

Congratulations.

Adj,

Congratulations! Looks like a great choice, she seems a beaut and a brute all at the same time.

You will wonder how you got along without it.

Now you just gotta figure out what tools you wanna drag behind it, or in front of it...

 

[paulfun9]

My DK 35 had a creeper gear option. I didn't get it.
Even without the creeper gear option my lowest gear is about 1 MPH at full throttle.
I run a 6' tiller and it does a nice job.
My previous gear tractor was about the same tractor. John Deere 850 (26 HP, 22 PTO HP) ran a 5" tiller.

You let the cat out of the bag on that one next someone might say they can actually use a snow blower with their geared tractor and don't have issues!

By the way has anyone ever realized that going too slow with the tiller isn't always good for the soil and in many cases people are going too slow because they don't have enough power to properly run their tiller.

My tiller has a recommended ground speed listed and its much higher than what my creeper gear will do.

 

[paulfun9]

Ok everyone........ I pulled the trigger........ I went with the CK2610 HST. It will be delivered next week.
I want to thank everyone for your input and willingness to offer some great advice!
I will post more pictures and maybe a video when it's delivered.


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Congrats! Nice tractor!

 

[DK35vince]

You let the cat out of the bag on that one next someone might say they can actually use a snow blower with their geared tractor and don't have issues!

I run a snow blower also.
Works fine.

 

[TripleR]

Different operators, tractors, chores, terrain etc. I have no need for a creeper on my L5740HSTC, but sure could use one on our M8540HDC 12/12, doubt I'll ever spend the money to get it added though. Now our MF375 12F/4R can go about as slow or slower than you walk.

 

[paulfun9]

I run a snow blower also.
Works fine.

I just find it funny how things we have been doing for years seem so impossible to others when ever the question of HST compared to a gear comes along.

 

[IslandTractor]

I just find it funny how things we have been doing for years seem so impossible to others when ever the question of HST compared to a gear comes along.

Not impossible, just not as easy or controllable as with HST.

 

[paulfun9]

Not impossible, just not as easy or controllable as with HST.

Are you sure about that?

 

[oldpilgrim]

Are you sure about that?

I am. I've had both gear and HST. HST is all I'll ever have again.

 

[coobie]

I am. I've had both gear and HST. HST is all I'll ever have again.

+1 me to.I get tired of shifting the older I get.LOL..