How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing?

   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #21  
We don't have them here any more either.. they dropped it a few years ago.
Because they realized it is a waste of time and taxpayer money and has no positive effects.
 
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#22  
^^^Kind of like emission testing 40 year old cars...
 
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Wow! They actually do indoor recess for smog?
A few years ago it was common in Los Angeles several days every school year. I haven't seen anything in the paper for several years now but I'm 400 miles north of LA.

There have been a lot of state regulations restricting ag burning, paint solvent volatility, no new home fireplaces, and of course the vehicle stuff. I think the restrictions finally turned the trend around and there are fewer days now that exceed safe limits.

The photo I posted matches what I have seen too many times, coming down off the Sierras into the Central Valley on a hot summer Sunday afternoon. You see that, drive into it, and you understand why people who live there demanded that government 'Do Something About This!!!'. And really, LA was a lot worse than this 20 years ago when I often had assignments there and went down weekly. There are mountains maybe 15 miles from downtown LA and every afternoon, you couldn't see them through smog worse than this photo.


I don't think California has had safety inspections in my lifetime aside from fixit tickets, re-registering a salvage title vehicle, etc where there is a need to verify that repairs were sufficient.
 
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The only other safety inspection is when a Dealer retails a used vehicle... in addition to smog the dealer is required to inspect/repair the braking system and inspect Seat Belts... I know I had to install a lot of seatbelts in older cars when I was a kid...

The Air Resources Board has broad powers... they have banned the sale of premixed low temperature windshield washer fluid to spare the air in most of the State.

Gas Water Heaters, Furnaces all must be NOx compliant...

I get all those great ads for Honda Generators and Stihl Chainsaws and in the fine print it often states not for sale in California.

Maybe nothing will come of this... it could just be the California car culture is going the way of the Dinosaur...

I spent all of my school years in the SF Bay Area and we never had indoor recess... thing to remember is California is a very large State and what is needed in Los Angeles is not the same as Humboldt... yet... for the most part we have a one size fits all.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #26  
Alabama has never required one. We are lucky to get everyone on the road with a drivers license and a license plate.
 
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Unlicensed Drivers are a big problem and part of the reason "Undocumented" drivers are now issued driver's licenses... over 660,000 last I heard.

Hope they all have insurance.

Stealing tags is big here... I have several taken in the work parking lot... don't have money to buy tags or pay for insurance or can't pass smog... no problem... lift a tag and claim it as your own.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #28  
I spent all of my school years in the SF Bay Area and we never had indoor recess... thing to remember is California is a very large State and what is needed in Los Angeles is not the same as Humboldt... yet... for the most part we have a one size fits all.
Come to think of it around Y2k there were such severe forest fires that NorCal had similar restrictions for a few days. I recall my kids weren't let out for PE then their soccer coach insisted on outdoor practice that evening anyway - but nobody showed up. I took a couple of photos where visibility was only a few blocks.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #29  
In WA, testing in only the 5 counties with air quality problems, and only cars 25 years or newer, and no testing of cars newer than 2008.

Bruce
 
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In Indiana they only require emission testing every two years in Lake and Porter counties, up in the northwest corner of the state, right next to Chicago. And it applies only to cars manufactured after 1976, as your do. Read below. Rest of the state is exempt.

INDIANA'S VEHICLE EMISSIONS TESTING PROGRAM
Vehicles registered in Lake and Porter counties are required to undergo emissions tests and tampering inspections every two years if they were manufactured after 1976 and have a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 9,000 pounds or less. Vehicle manufacturers typically print the GVWR on the driver-side door jamb.

Find a Clean Air Car Check emissions testing station near you
Vehicles manufactured in odd-numbered years are tested during odd-numbered years and vehicles manufactured in even-numbered years tested during even-numbered years. Exemptions include vehicles manufactured during the four latest model years and antique vehicles (as defined by 326 IAC 13-1.1-1 - see Section 1 on page 2). For instance, a vehicle with a manufacturer's model year of 2009 should be tested in 2013, and tested again in 2015 and 2017.
 
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Thanks Moss... it seems California and Indiana have something in common.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #32  
Nebraska doesnt. Coloraado does. I think CO is every year for diesels, and every 5 for gassers, but i may be wrong.
 
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Thanks Moss... it seems California and Indiana have something in common.

Its more like northwest Indiana is a suburb of Chicago. They are even on Chicago time. I'm about 6-7 miles east of the western edge of the eastern time zone up there in St. Joseph county. I don't like being on the western edge of the time zone. It doesn't get dark until almost 10:00pm in summer. The sun is not at its highest until about 2:00pm. And every time we visit anyone just west of us, our stupid cell phones pick up cell towers from the CST even though we aren't in it. We used to have that problem being close to Michigan, too, but now we are on the same time zone as them for every and eternity. :laughing:

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I live outside the city limits - so no testing for any year vehicle. I believe, within the city limits, all vehicles must be tested annually except those that are licensed as antique. There is no state wide emission testing for vehicles, that I'm aware of, in WA.
 
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That was exactly what was said..
The same with Arkansas, no ET or even vehicle inspections. These were in effect but dropped several years back.
 
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What is all this emissions testing you speak of? Jk. :).

Only vehicle inspections are commercial vehicles.
 
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Now here in Ontario, with an increased number of people that have been deleting class 8 trucks, they passed a new law. When you go for your annual safety the dealer plugs in to the ECM. If there is any sign of anyone but an authorized dealer being in there, or any check engine or ABS light on the dash, it is a fail and you cannot renew the plates until corrected.

I'm sure the tuners will keep finding ways around it with being able to not leave a foot print in the ECM. But at a cost of 8 to 10 grand for a delete, do you take the gamble? I mean it does pay off big time with increased fuel mileage and reliability, but would sure hurt the wallet if you get caught.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #39  
Here's why smog rules aren't likely to be relaxed. This photo is a normal summer day in the State Capital, Sacramento. The Bay Area has pristine air because it blows in from the ocean - but by the time the air reaches the foothills 120 miles East it has absorbed all this crud and the Bay Area's smog just stacks up against the Sierras instead of blowing over into Nevada.

Los Angeles is worse. I used to fly down weekly for work and it hurt my lungs getting out of the plane just like when you use too much bleach cleaning the shower. Nobody in LA wants the sky to look like this, or likes it when their kids are kept in for recess because the atmosphere outdoors can give them lung cancer.

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(Post where I explained that photo).


The natives called the LA bason "the valley of smokes" long before white ever set foot on the region.
 
   / How far back does your State or Province require Vehicle Emission Testing? #40  
The natives called the LA bason "the valley of smokes" long before white ever set foot on the region.
First time I've heard that. It's accurate. Like I described for the Central Valley, air pollution can't escape the basin until the normal wind direction eventually shifts.

From that historic base add the infrastructure to support an additional 18 million people, each one traveling an average over 22 miles per day and the need to limit air pollution is inevitable.
 

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