Why are you brand loyal?

[Oaktree]

I never buy used. And I never finance. Keeping the car 10 or more years allows me to do that.

I never buy new. I tend towards 8-10 year old vehicles then drive them 'til they drop. One reason is that they've pretty much depreciated as much as they're going to, also you see which ones stand up over time. If you tend not to see many old ones of a certain make/model you know they're one to avoid.

Of course, you kind of have to take what you get...no choice of options, but it seems today you only get to choose "loaded" or "really loaded" anyway.

I happen to like Honda automobiles and have owned many, but they totally blew me off when we had a problem with a car a few years ago, which was a $2800 issue. I could tell I was getting screwed when a rep at their 1-800 number went into "stonewall" mode, and I was shocked and disappointed they would behave that way. So they probably lost my business in the future.

I had the same experience with toyota (wife's car). Problems they couldn't seem to fix, and dealing with the company was like dealing with the cable company. Unfailingly polite, somewhat condescending and absolutely stuck to the script. I'll never even consider one again. Can't say I especially liked the car to begin with, but their customer service sucked.

 

[wawajake]

This is one of the reasons why I am not brand loyal...............see the attached link announced today by Canadian Government and Toyota.

Ontario and Ottawa to provide $100 million for Toyota expansion - The Globe and Mail

You see they all take taxpayer money even Honda is mentioned here, and anyone who thinks Ford didn't is skewing the facts.............they all do or did. So basing brand loyalty on that is just foolish.
I will stick to what gives me best value for the money balanced with reasonable quality.

 

[Got2BTru]

Kinda hard to argue with this quote from the article...

“Why on earth are our governments handing them a hundred million dollars from the public purse? Will any of them say with a straight face that Toyota needs this money?”

 

[dodge man]

It doesn't look like they are giving them $100 million dollars, they look like loans to me. If it brings in jobs and tax dollars, it might be a good investment.

 

[farm boy00]

It doesn't look like they are giving them $100 million dollars, they look like loans to me. If it brings in jobs and tax dollars, it might be a good investment.

If it is really loans they could be making good money on interest for the loans

 

[MikePA]

Kinda hard to argue with this quote from the article...

“Why on earth are our governments handing them a hundred million dollars from the public purse? Will any of them say with a straight face that Toyota needs this money?”

'Handing' is not a financial term.

Directly from the article, emphasis mine;

"Ottawa’s contribution will be a repayable loan of $59 million — about 14 per cent of the cost of the project — while the Ontario government is kicking in a grant of $42.1 million, or 10 per cent"

EDIT: If people want to argue about who took loans/money and who didn't, start a thread in the Friendly Politics forum.

 

[kenmac]

I've always had at least 1 dodge in my fleet all my driving life. Other vehicles have been ford (only once) toyota, GM

 

[jlgurr]

I'm brand loyal for a few reasons. Looks better with four matching Yamaha dirt bikes in the garage. I only have to go to one john Deere dealer to pick up filters and parts. Once you learn to work on a ford truck why would want to reinvent the wheel.

I've owned five different toyota's in the past 20 years and still haven't had to work on them enough to get good at it.

Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles and 2010 Sequoia with 89,000 miles.

My 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choice is GM.

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[TomSeller]

Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles

Those early Tundras were built bullet proof from everything I have heard. Sounds like you are confirming that? Pictures?

 

[HHR]

I've owned five different toyota's in the past 20 years and still haven't had to work on them enough to get good at it. Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles and 2010 Sequoia with 89,000 miles. My 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choice is GM. Sent from my iPhone using TractorByNet

How many ball joints have you been through on that Tundra? It seems like every few weeks I see one on the side of the road with the tire wedged sideways underneath.

 

[jlgurr]

How many ball joints have you been through on that Tundra? It seems like every few weeks I see one on the side of the road with the tire wedged sideways underneath.

One pair of ball joints and tie rod ends about 90,000 miles ago. They were loose but not close to failure like you've described. That would ruin a good day for sure.

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[TomSeller]

One pair of ball joints and tie rod ends about 90,000 miles ago. They were loose but not close to failure like you've described. That would ruin a good day for sure.

That's pretty dang good. Gotta like reliable trucks.

 

[oldpilgrim]

I know 3 guys who have nearly 350,000 miles on their Tundras and have done nothing but normal maint on them. They still sound and run like new. That's why I bought mine.

 

[FredH]

Not Brand Loyal at all . For Me it is all about What I am looking for in either a truck or car for better half . Have never bought a new pick up or semi but did buy a new Subaru forester for her after Her Saturn got broad sided . Did have a '84 Ford F250 4 wheel drive that served it purpose while I had it . Bought a '06 Dodge 2500 quad cab 4 wheel drive with 8' bed , a few years back since I wanted the extra cab storage mostly when My bro's and me go Elk Hunting . Went with the Dodge at that time simply due to the Fact that for a 250 mile radius around Me , I could not find any other brand in my price range , that had a 8' bed with a quad or similar type cab in 3/4 ton model and 4 wheel drive .
With the addition of a Big Tex 14LX , I have since sold the old Ford , since the trailer can now haul anything I need to haul .

I really don't look at Brand , for Me , it is all about What I need , what price range I want and What is available .

Fred H.

 

[jlgurr]

Those early Tundras were built bullet proof from everything I have heard. Sounds like you are confirming that? Pictures?

This Tundra has not failed me yet. We've been through a lot together too, on and off-road...



My wife's Sequoia is nice but just about too big for ease of parking and entry/exit with the twins in car seats.

 

[TomSeller]

This Tundra has not failed me yet. We've been through a lot together too, on and off-road...

I bet. After all it was Truck Trend's 2000 Truck of the Year.

 

[Btown]

The highest percentage of vehicles over 200,000 miles, is the Ford F-250. There was no other vehicle even close to it. The study included cars. Most of the top 5 were suv's and trucks, not cars.

 

[Haoleguy]

Brand loyalty no longer exists in my heart and head. Cars/trucks owned include, in order, 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302, 1972 Ford Pinto station wagon, 1964 Pontiac LeMans convertible, Ford Fairlane GT 390, 1979 VW Rabbit, 1976 Datsun B210, 1974 BMW 3.0S, 1970 Plymouth Duster, 1974 BMW 2002, 1986 Saab 900, 1987 Subaru station wagon, 1990 Nissan 300zx, 1992 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 1990 Saab SPG, 1998 Ford F150(still have), and 2003 Acura MDX(still have). Both current vehicles need to be replaced within the next few years. I will say goodbye to my F150 and hello to a truck that can tow 10K lbs for farming related activities. My spouse wants her Acura to outlive her, and it might, but with closing in on 200K miles I'm thinking it's days are numbered. As always I think you go for the best vehicle for what your needs are regardless of manufacturer. For all the vehicles I've had the Boss 302 was the most exhilarating, the LeMans convertible the best fun and bargain($125), the SAABs that most technically sound, and the Acura the safest(fwy head on collision with $25K repair bill after only 2 years since new.)

 

[TomSeller]

The highest percentage of vehicles over 200,000 miles, is the Ford F-250. There was no other vehicle even close to it. The study included cars. Most of the top 5 were suv's and trucks, not cars.

Did I miss a post with a link?

 

[jlgurr]

The highest percentage of vehicles over 200,000 miles, is the Ford F-250. There was no other vehicle even close to it. The study included cars. Most of the top 5 were suv's and trucks, not cars.

I'd like to read that study. I can believe quantity but percentage not so sure about. Since there is such a large volume of those on the road, especially fleets and the like, it would make sense they have the most exceeding 200,000 miles. Don't get me wrong, I don't know all F-250 owners but those that I do know never came close to 200,000 miles and still had a truck that could be a daily driver.