F-250 vs 2500 HD gas

[buickanddeere]

And this pertains to what? You can't get the 5.3 in a 3/4 ton...

Rare is the application that actually hauls over 10,000lbs and needs a class A license. The GM HD half tons are rated for 9900lbs .

 

[HHR]

Rare is the application that actually hauls over 10,000lbs and needs a class A license. The GM HD half tons are rated for 9900lbs .

Actually the GM half tons are rated 12,000 pounds max towing with the 6.2L and 10,800 for the 5.3L
2015 GMC Sierra 1500 Maintains 12,000-lb. Max Trailering

 

[crashz]

My 2012 2500HD has been great. And I bet the F250 would be a great truck too. But if these are your daily drivers, the unloaded mileage will hurt.


BTW- I've used E85 in the truck and get about 25% less mileage. But it burns clean and smells nice and sweet.

 

[xcrider08]

I love my 2015 Silverado 2500 hd. LTZ loaded minus the driver alert package. Its a year old, just rolled over 8000 miles. To be honest, I bought it pull the trailers and toys around and for the occasional sunday drives and didn't worry about the gas mileage. Also the resale value around here is much higher on a 3/4 ton then 1/2 (thanks to the oil field). It has the 6.0, gas mileage empty is between 12-14, depending on how I drive it. Pulling is a guessing game. On the way to cooke city Montana for a sled trip pulling 30 foot trailer with 4 sleds all the gear and guys, we fought 30mph head winds the hole way and got 6mpg, on the way home we had no wind and I got 9mpg. But the ride and comfort of the new 3/4ton is so nice and quite, even compared to my dads 04 2500hd crew cab with the big gas motor (8.1L) I had my truck and built to the way I liked it and as it sits today im sitting right around $57,000 (taxes, liscense, accessories,..)
-bushwaker fender flares
-amp power boards
-linex bed liner
-tonneau cover
-moto metal 20" rims with cooper at3 tires
-2.5" leveling kit up front with 1" blocks in rear
-HID high and low beam lights

 

[Poke]

Rare is the application that actually hauls over 10,000lbs and needs a class A license. The GM HD half tons are rated for 9900lbs .

You're correct, I don't pull 10,000 lbs often, but when I do its way more comfortable than a 1/2 ton to do it in, and in Arkansas I don't need a class A license to do it, and I do tow that occasionally. But I don't understand why the price of injectors for a Ford of some kind vs the price of a long block for a 5.3 belongs on this thread.

 

[MossRoad]

Just to make sure anyone 37 years old or younger contemplating purchasing a new truck won't be saying coulda, woulda, shoulda in 30 years...

$60,000 earning 7% compounded annually for 30 years will give you a tad over $450,000 at retirement age. Hope you get a half million dollars worth of enjoyment out of that truck.

 

[wmonroe]

Just to make sure anyone 37 years old or younger contemplating purchasing a new truck won't be saying coulda, woulda, shoulda in 30 years... $60,000 earning 7% compounded annually for 30 years will give you a tad over $450,000 at retirement age. Hope you get a half million dollars worth of enjoyment out of that truck.

That's a good real life way to look at it. Also makes me happy with my decision to wait a few more years to trade in my 07.

 

[TomSeller]

Just to make sure anyone 37 years old or younger contemplating purchasing a new truck won't be saying coulda, woulda, shoulda in 30 years...

$60,000 earning 7% compounded annually for 30 years will give you a tad over $450,000 at retirement age. Hope you get a half million dollars worth of enjoyment out of that truck.

There seems to be two messages inhere. If you are 37 or younger, save, save, save. If you are 67 or older, go for it.

 

[MossRoad]

That's a good real life way to look at it. Also makes me happy with my decision to wait a few more years to trade in my 07.

Its what keeps me smiling driving my very used '93 Suburban. :laughing:

I have comfortable seating for 5, 8 in a pinch(or stick my bench back in the front and I can take 9 people), room for lots of junk inside, or take out the rear seat, fold down the middle and I can take a load of 4x8 plywood, or 12' boards if I have to. I have an 18' car hauler trailer I can take my tractor on, or loads of mulch, stone, firewood, etc... if I need to. Its a gas engine and I get 18mpg on the highway all day long. I have a whopping $6000.00 wrapped up in it over the last 6 years.

 

[Copperhead]

What mileage do you get if you don't mind me asking. $120K for a real truck and $84K for a pickup. Amazing.

$84K for a pickup? What left field did that come out of? Not sure I follow that one. I did pay $120 for the semi tractor new, but the way I did it, I actually saved $40K over the normal price for a similarly spec'd new truck. How? By ordering a new truck minus the engine and transmission. I then dropped in a factory rebuilt engine and factory rebuilt trans. Doing so, I got to avoid the 14.5% Federal Excise Tax on new equipment and got to avoid all the emissions junk being placed on new trucks nowadays. EPA ties the emissions to the year the motor was built, not the vehicle. If it comes from the factory with a motor, you are stuck with that year. If it comes without a motor, you can drop in whatever you want and it only has to comply with emission from the year the motor was initially made. Sneaky eh? And that setup is averaging right around 7.83 mpg over the last 405,000 miles. Not bad for a commercial semi truck, 53' trailer, with gross weights up to 80K lb. A typical new truck spec'd the same as mine except with new motor and trans and all the emissions stuff and the federal excise tax would be near $160K.

 

[Copperhead]

I get roughly the same mpg on everything from regular to E15. Just did a 1243 mile business trip with my 2015 2500 6.0L gas and averaged, hand calculated, 16.7 mpg for the entire trip on E10 regular from various no name brands. Never a major brand, just convenience store fills. The cost spread in my area between E85 and E10 is not great enough to justify going out of my way to get the stuff. I have used it in the past and the 25% mpg loss might be a little extreme, but not far off. That is only because, even the flex fuel motors we have available, are not set up to fully take advantage of the fuel. Motors that have been developed to use E85 all the time are getting diesel equivalent power and fuel economy.

Right now, I just stay with E15 as it offers the lowest cost per mile to me. It gives me equivalent mpg as E10 and is 10 cents a gallon cheaper, or 40 cents a gallon cheaper than ethanol free regular. I am always interested in mpg, but only how it relates to the fuel cost and how that plays out on a cost per mile basis. I might pick up 1-2 mpg from non ethanol regular, but the cost per mile would essentially be a wash. 16.7 mpg on E10 at $2.49 a gallon is roughly 15 cents a mile. Let's say I get 18 from using non ethanol at $2.79 a gallon in my area. That comes out to 15.5 cents a mile. Why pay more when the cost per miles is essentially the same? E15 is $2.39 right now, I get the same mpg as E10, so that cost per mile is close to 14 cents a mile. A better value.

 

[TomSeller]

$84K for a pickup? What left field did that come out of? Not sure I follow that one. I did pay $120 for the semi tractor new, but the way I did it, I actually saved $40K over the normal price for a similarly spec'd new truck. How? By ordering a new truck minus the engine and transmission. I then dropped in a factory rebuilt engine and factory rebuilt trans. Doing so, I got to avoid the 14.5% Federal Excise Tax on new equipment and got to avoid all the emissions junk being placed on new trucks nowadays. EPA ties the emissions to the year the motor was built, not the vehicle. If it comes from the factory with a motor, you are stuck with that year. If it comes without a motor, you can drop in whatever you want and it only has to comply with emission from the year the motor was initially made. Sneaky eh? And that setup is averaging right around 7.83 mpg over the last 405,000 miles. Not bad for a commercial semi truck, 53' trailer, with gross weights up to 80K lb. A typical new truck spec'd the same as mine except with new motor and trans and all the emissions stuff and the federal excise tax would be near $160K.

Sneaky? No. Smart? Yes. Very clever.

I always found it amazing that a big truck hauling a load could get 7 to 8 mpg and regular old pickups were getting 13 mpg empty until recently.

The $84k for a pickup was referenced in a different post.

 

[Duwop]

Duwop, Nice pickup that sounds like pretty good mileage for those gears, Can you burn ethanol in the 6.2L engines?

Update answer, after further investigation my truck is e85 or FFV and can burn ethanol in the 6.2