FEL Fitting size / specification questions.
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quicksandfarmer
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I believe it is a metric ORFS (O-ring face seal). If so, it is not available for sale in the US. There has been a lot of discussion in the past about these fittings, check the archives.
Bob Rooks
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Quicksandfarmer is correct, but you can get adapters to convert to JIC at Affordable Tractor.
There is a good chance I will just buy a new FEL with standard connectors and have the house all fit to the new FEL valve that way no worries of having to order part... besides my EFL is questionable anyway... I already sent my old pump fitted with a new front end to match on shelf ready future pump of same rating at the end of the day I will keep replaceing part with local ready to buy parts just glade I have a good machine shop to custom parts for me... this Jinma will end end with a 4 cylinder loacal engine also lol...thanks all
quicksandfarmer
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Thank you all, how about this site can anyone tell me what conversion fitting would fit on my current valve?
Bob Rooks
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Seriously? You plan on repowering? I want to see pictures of that.
Bob Rooks
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What are you trying to do?
quicksandfarmer
Elite Member
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The link I gave you is exactly what you asked for, a dealer that sells aftermarket replacement fittings for Chinese tractors. Direct quote from the site:"you can order a direct fit replacement hose that includes an upgraded adaptor that does away with the factory adaptor that are known to leak hydraulic oil."
I don't know why you don't believe it when several people tell you, but the hydraulic fittings on Chinese valves are metric ORFS. This is not a fitting that is used anywhere in the world but in China. The only place you're likely to get them in North America is a Chinese tractor dealer.
Hello Quicksand the site you provided me I could not find the actual conversion fitting specification and I do understand that these are hard to find and trust I know. as for the site you provided all the fitting old / new don't look like the one I have on the spool valve the site I provide if one would know the exact specification to the one I have that was suggested on this forum to be a 11m ORFS then I would have been what I was trying to do is located that specific conversion on a site. my apologies quicksand I'm only trying to get as much info from as many to not order the wrong part as you nothing like waiting for 2 weeks for a delivery and get the wrong parts and yes im very anxious because this is the only thing standing in my way to get some work done on my property.
quicksandfarmer
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I think your best bet is calling a Chinese tractor dealer like Ranchhand or Affordable Tractor in Texas and asking them.
But if you want to figure it out yourself, here is a guide to identifying hydraulic fittings:
https://www.discounthydraulichose.com/v/vspfiles/downloadables/thread_guide.pdf
The metric ones start on page 15. Note that for each fitting it lists a thread size and thread pitch -- ie M12x1.5. That's a 12mm diameter with 1.5 mm between threads. This is the same way that metric bolts sold at any hardware store are specified, and the sizes are the same as those of common metric bolts. So go to a hardware store and get yourself the following bolts:
M8x1.0
M10x1.0
M12x1.5
M14x1.5
M16x1.5
Be careful with the 8, 10 and 12 because they come in both 1.0 and 1.5 pitch. Take the fitting off, and see which bolt fits. That's your fitting size. If none of those bolts fit -- if it's 11mm for example-- you're back to dealing with the Chinese tractor dealers.
But if you want to figure it out yourself, here is a guide to identifying hydraulic fittings:
https://www.discounthydraulichose.com/v/vspfiles/downloadables/thread_guide.pdf
The metric ones start on page 15. Note that for each fitting it lists a thread size and thread pitch -- ie M12x1.5. That's a 12mm diameter with 1.5 mm between threads. This is the same way that metric bolts sold at any hardware store are specified, and the sizes are the same as those of common metric bolts. So go to a hardware store and get yourself the following bolts:
M8x1.0
M10x1.0
M12x1.5
M14x1.5
M16x1.5
Be careful with the 8, 10 and 12 because they come in both 1.0 and 1.5 pitch. Take the fitting off, and see which bolt fits. That's your fitting size. If none of those bolts fit -- if it's 11mm for example-- you're back to dealing with the Chinese tractor dealers.
Bob Rooks
Elite Member
That 90 degree fitting you seek is part of a complete hose assembly which should be available through any Jinma tractor dealer.
again big thank you for your help.Thank you Bob unfortunately no Jinma dealership around here, what I ended up doing yesterday is old school switch the in put hose with the out put because one would think the psi would be just a bit lower to control the minor drip leak... it worked slowed it down by a drip per every 5 minutes so I took a string inserted in between where I had the leak at no 2 a few turns and stop the drip for now until I get a permanent replacement all fitting to a local available brand because the last thing I want is a blow out in the winter and have to wait for parts so will gradually replace all thank you Bob for your help and everyone one helping... I said it before will say it again I could not have done all my repairs without the help from the members of this site... Rob
doxford jim
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Rob,
I see you are in Ottawa area - do they have a Princess Auto in your area ? They sell the type of hydraulic fittings you need as also would a hydraulics shop in your area (we are also metric too here in Canada).
As far as dealer parts, you have been given a couple of good people to deal with in the US - Ronald at Ranchhand and Tommy at Affordable.
In Canada you should try Asian Tractor Parts in Ontario - I have found them good to deal with and they came through with parts for me when other Canadian companies could not. Their prices are very reasonable.
Jinma Tractor Parts - Foton Parts - FarmPro - Asian Tractor Parts
Don't get too carried away with rebuilding your tractor to local standards - very expensive and pointless as spare parts are available for the tractor you have. You just gotta look in the right places :thumbsup:
If you don't want to deal with US companies, try Asian Tractor Parts - they come well recommended.
HTH
I see you are in Ottawa area - do they have a Princess Auto in your area ? They sell the type of hydraulic fittings you need as also would a hydraulics shop in your area (we are also metric too here in Canada).
As far as dealer parts, you have been given a couple of good people to deal with in the US - Ronald at Ranchhand and Tommy at Affordable.
In Canada you should try Asian Tractor Parts in Ontario - I have found them good to deal with and they came through with parts for me when other Canadian companies could not. Their prices are very reasonable.
Jinma Tractor Parts - Foton Parts - FarmPro - Asian Tractor Parts
Don't get too carried away with rebuilding your tractor to local standards - very expensive and pointless as spare parts are available for the tractor you have. You just gotta look in the right places :thumbsup:
If you don't want to deal with US companies, try Asian Tractor Parts - they come well recommended.
HTH
Hello Doxford. you're right we do have a princess auto here in Ottawa and they don't have those fittings I even brought the hose with me and tried all there stock shelve fitting and none fit, as for dealing with US etc countries I don't have a problem with that at all Doxford my issue is e.g in the winter the tractor breaks down and no part available for one week plus that makes for a lot of shoveling snow by hand this is why as things break I will always explore to convert broken parts to a more local available stock. Doxford this why I'm searching and taken info from this site to have as much information as possible to have ready. thank you Doxford.
Good day all. just a quick FYI I found the 2 conversion fitting for my spool valve and works great the in put and out put size is 15MDL-8MJ / Metric Conversion Male DIN 24* Cone Light Series to Male JIC 37* Flare Thread {1}: M22 x 1.5 Thread {2}: 3/4"-16 ( $32.00 each )
I ordered the 4 others for future use is I get a leak.
I ordered the 4 others for future use is I get a leak.
bjr
Veteran Member
What I'm not seeing in all these posts is a attempt to enlarge the cylinder ports to the nearest SAE oring or plain 'ol NPT. Okay you'd have to remove the valve and disassemble to get all the tap shavings out. But seems doable and cost effective to compare to a total replacement valve. The spool seals are what I'm needing for a TL-20 loader valve any help with those? I can't be the only one thinking of this. bjr
Good day BJR, on my end I used plumbing putty insert in the valve lined up with the release fitting made the new hole and no metal shaving got in the valve stayed on the putty I still used a 1/4 tube plugged on my mini vacuum and suck out anything that could have bypass the putty, for my valve because they are already at 15mm I would not want to increase the size and in my case it was good to go with the conversion fitting because now I could use the original hose to fit a standard valve if I find a good deal one day.
The only thing I have yet solved is the curl up power not as strong as the 3 other positions will check if I have air lock one day on the curl up position it works but I would judge at 75%.
