Steepest grade you have made it up?

   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #31  
Just a note.

A 45 degree slope

1:1

is incredibly steep, snow will barely hold at that pitch. We humans often over estimate pitch steepness

I snow ski, and pitches are part of the assesment.
 
   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #32  
Just a note.

A 45 degree slope

1:1

is incredibly steep, snow will barely hold at that pitch. We humans often over estimate pitch steepness

I snow ski, and pitches are part of the assesment.
Agreed.
 
   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #33  
Yes 1:1 is steep.

Yes location of weight makes a difference.

But at some point, weight begins to be counter productive. Causing it to pull you down the hill with more force than the added traction. At what point that is, I have no idea. Depends on several other factors. But to just say added weight will help is not true.

Ballasted rear tires and implement on the back may be best to counter a full loader going forward up the hill. But then what to do.coming back down empty? Is forward downhill best (with the ballasted tires to the uphill side). Or baxkingnback down? And if backing back down it would be even better if the tires were not loaded. But how much better? And how would that effect going uphill with the load.

Again, too many variables. But weight ain't everything. ATV's are light. And don't have r1 tires like my Kubota. Yetbit does very well going uphill given its short wheelbase and light footprint. Take it to the extreme, talkinng about the steepest hill it can climb, now add 1000# and do it again. Add that 1000# right at the cog. Would the aid in traction be greater than the added gravity pulling back down the hill?
 
   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #34  
Visual aides.

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   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #35  
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Something tells me that wasn't the result you were looking for. :)
 
   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #36  
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Something tells me that wasn't the result you were looking for. :)
Strange, they show up on my computer in the post above yours.

Here is the snip.

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When I reloaded, it changed the order and added this at the bottom:

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   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #37  
Yes 1:1 is steep.

Yes location of weight makes a difference.

But at some point, weight begins to be counter productive. Causing it to pull you down the hill with more force than the added traction. At what point that is, I have no idea. Depends on several other factors. But to just say added weight will help is not true.

Ballasted rear tires and implement on the back may be best to counter a full loader going forward up the hill. But then what to do.coming back down empty? Is forward downhill best (with the ballasted tires to the uphill side). Or baxkingnback down? And if backing back down it would be even better if the tires were not loaded. But how much better? And how would that effect going uphill with the load.

Again, too many variables. But weight ain't everything. ATV's are light. And don't have r1 tires like my Kubota. Yetbit does very well going uphill given its short wheelbase and light footprint. Take it to the extreme, talkinng about the steepest hill it can climb, now add 1000# and do it again. Add that 1000# right at the cog. Would the aid in traction be greater than the added gravity pulling back down the hill?

I agree with your points, and even your conclusion that nothing is absolute. I am sure that a PROPERLY ballasted tractor will climb better than it will without ballast.
 
   / Steepest grade you have made it up? #38  
What's the steepest grade? I don't have too many hills where I use my tractor but my 90 yo father looked at my tractor and said,

"Looks like it'll climb up anything that's got a top to it or pull anything that's got two ends to it."
 

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