Rear Hydraulic remotes?

[Dieselrider]

I have a 2013 Kubota L3800. We opted for the Loader and the backhoe. Both have been handy but, looking back I should have opted for the rear hydraulic outlets(at least one set). So, now I would like to add them. I have the one line that goes to the back for when the backhoe is installed. That is where the backhoe gets it's hydraulic fluid from. Here is a pic of it.

Is it possible to tie into that connector to add the rear remotes? If not, looking at the hydraulic block outlet on the tractor, do I need to T off there to add an outlet and valve to the back, or somewhere else?

Thank you for advice.

 

[J_J]

Can you use your 3pt now with BH installed?

Where is the BH return going to now?

The line going back to the BH is the supply/PB, so this would go to the new valve.

Some BH valves have two lines and others have three. IN, Return/OUT, and PB.

If you have three lines on the BH, you don't have to switch hoses once installed.

You can't tee pressure lines, however I can recommend a valve that will switch supply line to two circuits.

 

[s219]

Here are two of my threads on the factory rear remote kit that goes on the L3200/L3800, which will give you some info (even useful if you don't use the factory kit).

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...3200-rear-remote-install-pics.html?highlight=

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...863-l3200-3800-3301-3901-rear.html?highlight=

Right now, your backhoe takes power beyond flow from the front loader. From the backhoe, it then routes it to the block under the right footboard where it flows to the 3-pt and then back to the reservoir. (The rearmost fitting on that block is the one that delivers flow to the 3-pt).

The rear remotes just get inserted into the power beyond loop before of the backhoe. So the arrangement will be:

pump -> FEL -> rear remotes -> backhoe -> 3-pt -> tank

At least that's what the factory instructions describe. They had a few errors, so I'd want to verify by looking at the existing backhoe plumbing arrangement.

 

[Dieselrider]

Can you use your 3pt now with BH installed?

Where is the BH return going to now?

The line going back to the BH is the supply/PB, so this would go to the new valve.

Some BH valves have two lines and others have three. IN, Return/OUT, and PB.

If you have three lines on the BH, you don't have to switch hoses once installed.

You can't tee pressure lines, however I can recommend a valve that will switch supply line to two circuits.

Cannot use the three point with the backhoe on the tractor. The three point must be removed to mount the hoe.

When the hoe is off the return and feed lines that go to the hoe, must be plugged in to one another to complete the loop.
My BH has two lines.
What valve would you recommend? Thanks

 

[Dieselrider]

Here are two of my threads on the factory rear remote kit that goes on the L3200/L3800, which will give you some info (even useful if you don't use the factory kit).

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...3200-rear-remote-install-pics.html?highlight=

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...863-l3200-3800-3301-3901-rear.html?highlight=

Right now, your backhoe takes power beyond flow from the front loader. From the backhoe, it then routes it to the block under the right footboard where it flows to the 3-pt and then back to the reservoir. (The rearmost fitting on that block is the one that delivers flow to the 3-pt).

The rear remotes just get inserted into the power beyond loop before of the backhoe. So the arrangement will be:

pump -> FEL -> rear remotes -> backhoe -> 3-pt -> tank

At least that's what the factory instructions describe. They had a few errors, so I'd want to verify by looking at the existing backhoe plumbing arrangement.

Your set up looks really nice but, wow, that is one heck of a price to pay for what you got in return. Sure looks nice though.

 

[Dieselrider]

Another question I thought of. What is a detent outlet in comparison to a regular rear outlet? Thanks.

 

[J_J]

Cannot use the three point with the backhoe on the tractor. The three point must be removed to mount the hoe.

When the hoe is off the return and feed lines that go to the hoe, must be plugged in to one another to complete the loop.
My BH has two lines.
What valve would you recommend? Thanks

1/2" NPT 20 GPM PRINCE SELECTOR VALVE

The PB will feed this valve.

One output will connect to the BH.

The other output will connect to the 3pt.

Knob in uses one flow path say the BH, and knob out feeds the 3pt.

 

[Dieselrider]

1/2" NPT 20 GPM PRINCE SELECTOR VALVE

The PB will feed this valve.

One output will connect to the BH.

The other output will connect to the 3pt.

Knob in uses one flow path say the BH, and knob out feeds the 3pt.

Okay, please forgive me being dense. When you say one output would feed the three point, do you mean the rear axillary outlet I want to install? I already have hydraulic power to the three point when the backhoe is off the machine. I want to be able to use the three point and one rear remote for a hydraulic cylinder. Thanks.

 

[Kanook]

Maybe I'm missing something but.....If you want to use the 3pt you would have the BH removed, so couldn't you just plug the cylinder you intend to use (log splitter for eg) into the hoses your BH vacated and use the appropriate valve to run your cylinder that ensures operation of the 3pt???

 

[s219]

I wouldn't complicate it more than you have to -- just insert the rear remotes in the PB loop after the FEL and before the backhoe, as Kubota does with the factory kit. The remotes will work regardless of whether or not the backhoe or 3-pt is attached, and a selector valve isn't needed.

No need to go with a factory kit either -- the main benefit there is nice integration when two or three valves are desired. You can put together an aftermarket setup for a fraction of the cost, especially if you don't waste time making it look pretty. If needing just one valve, it would be easy to stash in several locations on an L.

Another question I thought of. What is a detent outlet in comparison to a regular rear outlet? Thanks.

There are float detent valves, that hold the remote circuit into float when you push the lever into detent, and regular detent valves, that hold the circuit open/flowing when the lever is pushed into detent. The float detent valve would be desirable for a hydraulic top link being used with a rear mower or grading implements, for when you want to let the top link float in/out to accommodate motion or uneven terrain. The standard detent valve would be desirable to run hydraulic motors or pumps, though you are limited by the tractor's flow rate, so it can't run just any old motor/pump implement.