Power service, white bottle

[msb1766]

I use the white bottle in the winter and the gray bottle in the summer:
From their website:

Gray Bottle (summer)
Benefits
• Cleans dirty injectors and prevents injector sticking in High Pressure Common Rail (HPCR) and older systems
• Removes deposits on injectors and nozzle tips and prevents future deposits
• Boosts cetane up to 6 numbers – engines run smoother with less power lag and faster cold starts
• Boosts power – reduces need for downshifting
• Improves fuel economy up to 8%
• Contains Slickdiesel Lubricator to protect fuel pumps and injectors from increased wear caused by Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuel
• Effective in all diesel fuels, including ULSD, biodiesel and biodiesel blends
• Does not contain alcohol of any kind
• Safe for use in all diesel engines
• Will not void engine manufacturer's warranty when used as directed


White Bottle (Winter)

Benefits
• Prevents fuel gelling
• Protects against fuel-filter icing
• Boosts cetane for faster cold starts
• Contains Slickdiesel Lubricator to protect fuel pumps and injectors from increased wear caused by Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuel
• Effective in all diesel fuels, including ULSD and biodiesel blends
• Does not contain alcohol of any kind
• Safe for use in all diesel engines
• Will not void engine manufacturer's warranty when used as directed

 

[PILOON]

Once you have had to walk home in freezing cold and tow your tractor you will be sold on power source additive.

There are two choices.
Before or after ----I opt for B4.

Let me tell you, with a heated cab I left wearing a minimal jacket and no gloves or hat. That winter trek back to fetch a tow cured me forever.

 

[coobie]

Always got a good chuckle when folks call diesel fuel additives SNAKE OIL.I wonder what they are thinking this year with record low temps?I have used Schaffers,opit-lube,stanadyne diesel additives in my dodge diesel truck(now sold)tractors and kubota RTV 900. Never had a fail to start or gelling issue the last 20 years.I usually use about 500-600 gals of diesel fuel per year.

 

[coobie]

Once you have had to walk home in freezing cold and tow your tractor you will be sold on power source additive.

There are two choices.
Before or after ----I opt for B4.

Let me tell you, with a heated cab I left wearing a minimal jacket and no gloves or hat. That winter trek back to fetch a tow cured me forever.

Darn heated cabs give a person a false sense of security.I love mine,LOL.

 

[ecbaatz]

I add 2 glugs to every 5 gallon jug all year.

Me too, but only got the tractor in October so can't really say all year yet. However, that is my intent.

 

[5030]

Myself, I use PS in the white bottle in the winter plus Cat Injector Pintle lubricant year around and Power Kleen biocide in the storage tanks. Had an issue with algae a couple years ago in B20 off road. Power Kleen is cheap insurance biocide. One time with algae (aka: red slime) will make a believer out of you and lighten your wallet considerably for replacement parts like fuel pumps and injectors.

Typically my fill is 1000 gallons at a time.....

 

[TomSeller]

Power service white for winter, power service silver for the rest of the year. No issues to date. Been doing this for at least 20 years.

 

[Jay4200]

I use white PS all year around, since I never know if I might end up with THAT batch of fuel in the winter. I buy quarts, and put 1/10 of the bottle in each 5 gal container of fuel. It's about a double dose - cheap insurance, IMHO.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I stopped by Barlows yesterday and while there I told them about my RTV running/non running issue when it was -15 degrees. Steve said the fuel here will gel at that temp and it was like anyone would know that addatives have to be added here when it's really cold in tractors. I buy on road diesel at a high volume seller. I know stations here in Ky do a summer and winter blend of all fuels or so they say when prices change (up) when it starts getting cold.
Barlows had a case of 911 fuel addative and said they use it regular in winter and wouldn't consider not using it. Gary went out the door with a couple of bottles of it while I was talking to Steve. Guess Steve Barlow believes in it enough to buy it and he's a rather conservative guy with his money.
Bottom line for me is I'll be a silver summer guy and a white winter user, had been using the white year round for several years until I quit this past fall and then for the first time ever one of my Kubotas froze up. I do admit -15 degrees is a first in the 12 years I've owned Kubotas and used one of them.
Guess from now on I can/will tell an actual experience and why I use Power Service instead of I read on TBN where I should use it. My brother in law also came by and borrowed some of mine this past summer for some starting issue he had with his Kubota L and he's been a tractor owner for over 40 years.

 

[RaydaKub]

Once you have had to walk home in freezing cold and tow your tractor you will be sold on power source additive.

There are two choices.
Before or after ----I opt for B4.

Let me tell you, with a heated cab I left wearing a minimal jacket and no gloves or hat. That winter trek back to fetch a tow cured me forever.

Cured you forever of what? 1) making sure of using PS? or 2) making sure of having proper outer wear? I would hope both. What if you slide off the side of the road and get stuck? The walk is just as long and cold. :confused2:

 

[ovrszd]

After reading here about fuel addatives a few years ago I started adding power service in the white bottle regularly. Recent reading indicated only for really cold weather. I quit using it......until it got history breaking -15 degrees here. RTV1140 would start but not rev up and die when put in gear. Long walk to garage, got bottle of power service, return walk back to RTV, added power service, came back later, was a bit warmer and it started/starts fine and runs fine now. Never been much of a believer/supporter of addatives but will use Power Service white bottle in winter now.

Power Service also makes an additive, I believe it's in a silver bottle, that you can pour in the tank of a gelled vehicle and it will clear it up. I've heard you can speed the process by unscrewing the filter and adding a dab there in the process.

I use PS white bottle all Winter. #2 Diesel begins to gel at +20F.

 

[ovrszd]

Have used White bottle Power Service year around for over 30 years to prevent problems and never had trouble. However, according to Power Service web site Products | Power Service the SILVER bottle is for summer, the WHITE bottle is for winter and the RED bottle is for adding when problem occurs to clear/thaw filters etc. I use off-road diesel mainly because it is close to my house and it is around $0.50 less per gallon. May start using the additive according to Power Service.

I think you are right, I quoted the silver bottle as the problem solver, but I believe it is the red bottle.

 

[murphy1244]

Power Service also makes an additive, I believe it's in a silver bottle, that you can pour in the tank of a gelled vehicle and it will clear it up. I've heard you can speed the process by unscrewing the filter and adding a dab there in the process.

I use PS white bottle all Winter. #2 Diesel begins to gel at +20F.

Silver is summer stuff and red is what your thinking.

 

[ovrszd]

Been clearing residential laneways for several years since retiring.. which means I operate my diesels more in winter than the other 3 seasons...Have never used PS and always top up my tank when returning from a snow clearing event (2-5 hours depending on the amount of snow). Toping up helps prevent condensation that leads to fuel line freezups..The fuel we get in this area from Oct onward is a winter blend and likely has any additives already included from the refinery...have never had a geling issue, but have occasionally had a fuel filter freeze up due to ice and always in the early part of the snow season..(likely condensation left over from the summer/fall).I doubt the fuel available down 'south' would be the same formulation as it seems the southern contributors to this forum have more problems with fuel from geling/waxing/freezing than up here in the 'great white (and cold) north'.

If it makes you feel better keep on using it.....my experience tells me it is unnecessary if the fuel you are getting is formulated for cold weather conditions.

I never believe a supplier to tell me if the fuel is Winter safe. A $20 bottle of PS treats 250 gallons. Last time I gelled was 20 something years ago when I filled with fuel that the supplier said was "Winterized". It was not.

 

[sandyc]

I always use ps all the time. I keep a bottle of 911 handy just in case and haven't had to use it. Never (knock on wood) had a fuel problem.

 

[chevy]

Always got a good chuckle when folks call diesel fuel additives SNAKE OIL.I wonder what they are thinking this year with record low temps?I have used Schaffers,opit-lube,stanadyne diesel additives in my dodge diesel truck(now sold)tractors and kubota RTV 900. Never had a fail to start or gelling issue the last 20 years.I usually use about 500-600 gals of diesel fuel per year.

I agree. There is another tractor forum that I am a member of. They bash anyone that brings up winter treatment of diesel fuel. They state that it will destroy your fuel system.
They say to keep lots of spare fuel filters on hand in the winter.

 

[xzcVAbc5]

I agree. There is another tractor forum that I am a member of. They bash anyone that brings up winter treatment of diesel fuel. They state that it will destroy your fuel system.
They say to keep lots of spare fuel filters on hand in the winter.

Do they think battery maintainers destroy batteries, too? Sounds like a fun forum to troll.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm always surprised every Winter when I hear local farmers/ranchers complaining about their chore tractor's fuel gelling. I don't have Winter chores other than clearing the driveway. All 3 of my tractors are currently sitting in a 70 degree heated shop. All 3 of my tractors have their tanks full of treated fuel.

 

[davesl708]

I agree. There is another tractor forum that I am a member of. They bash anyone that brings up winter treatment of diesel fuel. They state that it will destroy your fuel system.
They say to keep lots of spare fuel filters on hand in the winter.

Do you suppose the filter guys sell filters? I use PS white year round. No issues using it.

 

[the old grind]

White bottle year 'round since day one, and in all diesels. In the old NH I used to mix 50/50 w/kero during winter, but gph was noticeably higher and I got tired of mixing.

Now I used Howes as well, and nothing but #2. (1 oz/gal) Good starts down to +10F, but any colder than that I can wait for a warmup into the teens. Always work the FEL to warm hydro while waiting for the temp gauge to give me a go-ahead.

Too many diesel cars/trucks around here not to trust #2 from the pump, and brother's Jetta TDI has started reliably, sub-0, with no additives.
btw, my home-brew tender/rejuvenator has brought several batteries back from the dead. So much for 'what some guy said' ... :cool2: