Cab, 12x12 shuttle and self-leveling loader?

[murphy1244]

Yep...standard Case controls, e-hoe, dual batteries, hydraulic QA front bucket and forks...the whole enchilada minus AC ��

What is your plan with it besides tilling the garden?

 

[ovrszd]

Case made a couple variations, just wondering what yours is?? Is the bucket controlled with the left lever?

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Duplicate removed. Stupid phone

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Yep...standard Case controls, e-hoe, dual batteries, hydraulic QA front bucket and forks...the whole enchilada minus AC ?de03

Hydraulic QA.....drool.....

 

[GManBart]

What is your plan with it besides tilling the garden?

I don't want to mess up CDN's thread too much, but I started out looking at the largest CUTs with cabs and then Utility size tractors, and finally realized I wasn't looking at them for their PTO capability. So, I decided I could get a solid, used backhoe for about the same money, and have more capability for what I need...moving dirt, and lifting heavy stuff. I have culverts to fix and create, a land bridge to create, remove one septic field, fix another septic field, then build some large berms (10' high, 40' wide with side berms 10' high and 24' deep) for a shooting bay, and clean up a large number of huge downed trees at the back of our property (thinking of getting a 3pt splitter for the Massey and selling the firewood). I'm sure I'll think of more stuff before long!

Case made a couple variations, just wondering what yours is?? Is the bucket controlled with the left lever?

Yep, bucket on the left, then stick, hoe and e-hoe. I like the simple system that should need less maintenance, and the fact that it should have the best feel of all the various setups available even if it's a bit slower (no rush since I'm not doing it for a living)....and I don't have a lot of time on a backhoe so I wasn't worried about what pattern it had.

 

[GManBart]

Hydraulic QA.....drool.....

That with the set of forks pushed it over the edge for me too!

 

[ovrszd]

Yep, bucket on the left, then stick, hoe and e-hoe. I like the simple system that should need less maintenance, and the fact that it should have the best feel of all the various setups available even if it's a bit slower (no rush since I'm not doing it for a living)....and I don't have a lot of time on a backhoe so I wasn't worried about what pattern it had.

The treddle swing on those are horrible. Very little accuracy. Also the wrist control on the left is very unnatural. But being a newbie operator you should be able to adjust to it all. Actually, if you've not operated a hoe much, you won't know the difference. Just don't get on a properly setup hoe. Very handy piece of equipment to have.

Sorry for the hijack.

 

[GManBart]

The treddle swing on those are horrible. Very little accuracy. Also the wrist control on the left is very unnatural. But being a newbie operator you should be able to adjust to it all. Actually, if you've not operated a hoe much, you won't know the difference. Just don't get on a properly setup hoe. Very handy piece of equipment to have.

Sorry for the hijack.

Hijacks happen.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Yup, things happen but there is a upside to it.....with the exclusion of the snowblower, a full size backhoe might be the ticket for me also. Decent used ones are in the 20-30k range which is less than a used 60hp tractor. And with the next property we are looking for to build on, might be a better choice anyway, then I could do my own excavation.......

 

[GManBart]

Yup, things happen but there is a upside to it.....with the exclusion of the snowblower, a full size backhoe might be the ticket for me also. Decent used ones are in the 20-30k range which is less than a used 60hp tractor. And with the next property we are looking for to build on, might be a better choice anyway, then I could do my own excavation.......

I looked at a very nice a 2002 Deere 310G with 2000hrs recently for $29,900...just sayin'

 

[wmonroe]

I think that's a great machine, but I actually went a slightly different route for my larger machine requirements....delivered earlier today: http://s454.photobucket.com/user/G-...5-4071-86BE-CFACB040958A_zpsmhdwl4vr.jpg.html

Nice! Congrats.

 

[farmer2009]

Nice find Gman. Have you done a thread on it? Not formilar with cases controls. Could you explain the treadles. Does it have third function? What about a hydraulic snow blower.

 

[Green Power]

Nice find Gman. Have you done a thread on it? Not formilar with cases controls. Could you explain the treadles. Does it have third function? What about a hydraulic snow blower.

Yes he has.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...17-solid-backhoe-35k-possible.html?highlight=

 

[woodchipper]

From my experience in clearing land, the backhoe proves itself so much valuable. Greater front end load capacity to comparable tractor horsepower. Very manuverable, more traction than a tractor( the BH is heavier and has bigger rear wheels). If you plan on building yourself, then you should reconsider you options, Tractor vs. BH. Do get one that is 4wd. Mine has chains, but only 2wd. It is acceptable on flat land, but as soon as you start working on a slope, you will regret it beeing only 2wd; same if you work in the woods when it is soggy and muddy. If going for a tractor, something between 55 and 65 HP should be your ticket. One important point that may be overlooked, is the ground clearance. Too many tractors (the newer compact utilities) are plain too low to the ground. As you know, wet snow is very hard to blow. If you do it comercially, then consider a full size Ag tractor. PTO RPM is also an important consideration for us in winterland... I find around 750 rpm quite better than the typical 540. and many tractors only offer 540 RPMs. I think that tractor wise, Kioty and LS are well worth the consideration. Adequate dealer representation in the greater Ottawa area, combined with reliable and lesser expensive than JD or Kubota would make those brands very much appealing. Also financing wise, now is a good time. And buying new seems way more valuable than used these days.
Cheers!

 

[Piston]

Farm Boy,
I think a good option tractor wise based on what you've asked, would be a slightly used Case 75C, or the exact tractor in blue, the New Holland T4.75. Very comparable to the size of the M7040 with more lift capacity and more speeds, you can get 16x16 if you find one with the creeper option, the self leveling loader lifts considerably more than 2k, it's power shuttle (I see where your coming from, I think I'd rather power shuttle over HST a lot of the time too), it has about 65 hp at the PTO, so it's big enough over your B series to justify the jump. It's slightly smaller than the JD 5083 but I believe has better specs (this is all 'on paper' talk).

Throw a FEL grapple on it, a winch or log grapple on the back, and you'd have a land clearing machine!

This is the tractor I'd probably get next if I had the cash.

I would have looked hard at LS, I think there is a P7010 or something, it's the same size but I don't like that you can't get it in power shuttle. I also have a full size backhoe, and I use my tractor and grapple way more than I use my backhoe for tree clearing. When you need the absolute brute power of the backhoe, it's really nice to have, but my tractor and grapple are so much more productive.

Now, throw both a loader grapple and a hydraulic thumb on something like a JD 310 or 410 with cab, and I may change my mind!

 

[kneedeep]

With it being Christmas, I figure that it's a good time to dream about my next tractor, not that I have any complaints with my B3300. My wife often talks about getting another dog (we already have 3) and my response is sure, when I get to have a second tractor......

How to tell if a new tractor's on the way
You can "smell" a new tractor coming two or three years ahead. The first thing a wife notices is that the thrill - of the old tractor, that is - is gone. He no longer fondles the fenders, caresses the hood. No more does he run in the faze of a storm to get 'er under cover. A crumpled muffler may lean into the wind for months on end. The vinyl seat splits and he seems not to notice. Foam oozes from the rupture and is carelessly obscured beneath a feed bag. Gone is the pride that once moved him to slyly detour visitors through the tractor shed. It doesn't seem very important anymore who drives the old thing - the wife even gets a crack at it.
"Give you any trouble?" he'll ask casually at lunch. Then, as he chomps down on a cob of corn, he'll move into phase two of the buildup: innuendo and suggestion.
"Been startin' a little hard lately. Thought maybe you'd notice . . . Shifts a little rough, don't you think?" You can agree or disagree. The psychological workup is in progress. The seeds of disturbances have been sown.
"D'ja notice how much oil that tractor's been burning?" he'll say to his son one day, making sure you're within earshot. Then early some morning he'll interrupt his book-keeping by walking into the kitchen (ostensibly for something to eat) and remarking, "Guess how much we spent for repairs on that tractor last year?" And then he'll go on to name a figure half again as high as the household budget.
"What?" you shriek. "On that new tractor?"
"That new tractor is ten years old? "You're kidding."
"I am not kidding. We bought it the year the willow tree fell on the outhouse. Re-member? I'll tell you how long we've had it. We've had it so long it's paid for."
The next thing you know, there's a tractor dealer coming by on trumped-up charges, hanging around the gas pump, leaving slick, four-color brochures in your kitchen, "giving" your husband the kind of time he's charging $10 an hour for back at the shop.
Some place in the campaign you'll be treated to the "poor of me" routine.
"Russ and Chuck traded their John Deere's in on a coupl'a 4-wheel drive Cases two years ago. Don, Lenny, George, and Bob - they've all had a complete tractor turnover since we bought our machine ... "
Then there's the scare technique: "Parts are gettin' harder and harder to locate for that tractor. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they quit making them altogether."
About this time you'll find a list of figures on a scratch pad conveniently placed to catch your eye - over the sink next to the telephone, on the back of the john. You think at first it's an inventory of all your holdings.
"Is this anything you want to keep?" you ask.
"Oh, that - that's just something the tractor dealer jotted down for me. Uhhh . . . some figures on a tractor - and aplow. New tractor takes a new plow. Says he'll take my old tractor on trade and give me just what I paid for it 10 years ago. That takes 'er down to about fourteen thouand."
"Fourteen thousand dollars! Holy cow! We don't want to buy the business. We just need a tractor!"
You suddenly realize that it's all over.

:xmastree: MERRY CHRISTMAS!! :santahat:
Reprinted from "All My Meadows" by Pat Leimbach, available direct from her for $7.00 at: The End 0' Way, 8877 Bank Rd., Vermillion, Ohio 44089.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

LOL! That's awesome. Thanks for that.

The second last sentence is the key to the whole thing.... She agreed to a new tractor. :-D

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

So those of you who have operated both a backhoe and a similar sized tractor in comparable conditions of snow and mud, which one has better traction? There's often discussion on here about tire choice and R1s being SOOOO much better in both than R4s which are typically on backhoes. I know the R4s on my 3300 suck in both. Are there R1s with similar load capacity to R4s that could be put on instead? Say for example I found a backhoe that needed tires...could I put something better on without sacrificing load? Most backhoes spend a great deal of time on the road which would be better with R4s but not a concern to me.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

I looked at a very nice a 2002 Deere 310G with 2000hrs recently for $29,900...just sayin'

1994 Case 580SK 4x4 with 2 hoe buckets, 4 in 1, 8320 hrs for $22,000?

 

[GManBart]

1994 Case 580SK 4x4 with 2 hoe buckets, 4 in 1, 8320 hrs for $22,000?

Might be worth looking at, but I'd want lower hours. I saw a lot of 580L and Super L's that were under $30K when I was looking...a lot with around 5K hours. It seems many people feel the L series were the best made ever.