Ford releases fuel numbers for the new F-150

[roadhunter]

Amen brother amen !!!

Thanks!

 

[jejeosborne]

You are not fooling anyone. We can all go back and see that you are simply repeating the same thing over and over, page after page. We all know why you are here and what you are up to. Might try a new tactic as this one is worn out.

I appreciate that. My goal isn't to fool anyone. Hopefully I haven't said anything foolish. I try to only speak wisely.

 

[TomSeller]

I have driven the ecodiesel .... 100 percent throttle would be required to climb a small Hill at 70 mph.
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Fancy that in a "truck of the year". I nominate it for "grocery getter of the year".

I am not knocking the quality of the truck or even the engine for those that simply like diesels. The premise that higher MPG without considering higher fuel costs that bring it to the same $PM level as the competition combined with poor towing and hauling capacities does not make the Dodge a top rated truck. Unless of course, your wife needs to get groceries.

 

[deerefan]

Grow up people. It is just a @^&* truck. Every year someone will come out with a bigger and badder model. Some of you act like a bunch of @^&* juvenilles over a piece of metal with a motor. It is a shame because it overshadows the good info in the thread and turns the moderators into a bunch of babysitters because a few of you can't have a mature, civilized discussion over a stupid pickup truck. Get a grip people. Rant over.

 

[Egon]

I have a 2012 ecoboost. It did that turbocharger stumble thing one time, when I was towing a trailer across north Texas on a rainy day and the transmission downshifted to 4th going up a hill. A few seconds and it went away. If it happened often I would do something about it or at least worry about it! But once in 45k miles is not a problem. From my point of view a good thing about the engine is low end torque, especially towing but also around town.

The best truck I ever had (in terms of "get the job done vs cost") was a used 1972 Dodge 4WD 3/4t with 360 V8 and 4spd. It had a heater, nothing else. Every body panel was dented and rattling but the drive train was like a locomotive. It got about 10-11
mpg no matter what, uphill, downhill, loaded or unloaded.

I had a 75 Dodge 3/4 ton with a 318, auto and overload springs. Hauled 3000 to 3500 pounds on a regular basis. Never seemed no problem. Got 15 mpg. Loads well Verified as pay scales were involved

 

[deerefan]

I had a 75 Dodge 3/4 ton with a 318, auto and overload springs. Hauled 3000 to 3500 pounds on a regular basis. Never seemed no problem. Got 15 mpg. Loads well Verified as pay scales were involved

You two are drumming up memories of the Power Wagon. Loved those things.

 

[roadhunter]

You two are drumming up memories of the Power Wagon. Loved those things.

Power Wagon, nice. My next thought was lil red express!

 

[deerefan]

It's funny- those trucks were faster than the vette in their day. I think they were the fastest american made vehicle on the road at that time.

 

[CHDinCT]

You are not fooling anyone. We can all go back and see that you are simply repeating the same thing over and over, page after page. We all know why you are here and what you are up to. Might try a new tactic as this one is worn out.

Keep up the fine work bashing and I'll keep pointing it out when you do it.

I know you might think you are being sneaky but it's obvious to the rest of us what you are up to. You literally do the same thing almost every day on here. SSDD.

Nice try but you actually proved my point for me, thanks. I don't bash on any truck brands. That is where the difference between you/DP/etc and I is. I simply point out the bashing that others do but I do not bash on other trucks in any way. My purpose is to stop the unnecessary bashing that people like you are doing to every thread about pickups. We have 18 pages of you guys repeating the same thing over an over about things like diesel costs or payload.

Thanks for pointing out the other thread. It also proves my point. You can read my posts there and see that I am not bashing any brand, just the people who do the bashing. I'm thrilled that GM makes a mid size truck and can't wait for the diesel version to come out next year.

It must be really frustrating for you guys to do everything you possibly can to bash a truck yet many of the tests and reports we read the Dodge somehow beats the Ford. Pretty funny watching the desperation grow as you keep repeating the same worn out statements over and over. Might be time to try a different tactic or just accept that some people like the Dodge eco diesel more than the Ford. The act is well beyond worn out.

Kinda like the Ford guys who are still talking about bailout money years since that happened who also completely ignore the billions in taxpayer dollars that Ford accepted as well. They might think they are being cute but we all know the truth so they really aren't' fooling anybody at this point but themselves if they think people take them seriously.

SSDD. Does it ever get old?

LAffin ^^

He is a Ford fan for gods sake. Look at his avi.

Well the Dodge won both of the comparisons over the Ford so obviously there must be something good about it. I'm sure you are capable of reading the articles and figuring it out.

My guess is that there is some technical reason the Dodge has a low payload rating, not because the air bags and axles snap as soon as you put 1,000 pounds in it. And not because the truck doesn't have enough power to pull a load. I think guys with fat wives are scared off by the low payload rating but to be honest when I drive around looking at pickups most are empty so I'm not sure it really means a whole lot to the average owner. If someone is looking to do a lot of heavy towing there are better options out there, for a guy who rarely tows and hauls things like golf clubs, lowes shopping trips, luggage, weed eater, grocery trips, etc.... The truck is perfect. The reality is that many people who own pickups don't tow trailers on a regular basis. Truthfully many don't even need a truck but want one.

If you like the Ford great. If you like the Dodge, great. But the folks who jump on every thread to argue and bash other brands need to stop. Seems like they are also the ones who exaggerate and make ridiculous claims about trucks that never break down or how their ecoboost tows as well as their older diesel dually. We are all smart enough to do a search and uncover some of the problems with the eco boost and I have no doubt that there will be similar hiccups with the new engine in the Dodge. Just part of the deal when new engines are released.

What I'd really like to see is a Natural Gas pickup. There are some factory cars setup to run NG but a truck would be really nice. Fuel prices can be substantially lower so cost per mile would blow all the other trucks away. But for now I am looking forward to the Nissan/Cummins combination. Ford guys better get ready to start bashing on Nissan.

You mean conspiracy. Ask Tom. It's all a conspiracy to bring Ford down.

Gees, Roadhunter, give it a break. Here's most of your posts from the past three or four pages of this thread. Who's the one with a broken record? I was enjoying reading this thread and the mostly honest debate going on but your constant ranting about who's a Ford fanboy is getting old. We get what your point of view is by now. Enough already.

 

[DarkBlack]

The 3.5 makes peak Hp at 5000 rpms. Peak torque at 2500 rpms

I see in the Motor Trend comparison back on post #78 that the Ford 2.7L has to be wound up to 5,750 RPM's to make 325 HP.
I can only speak for myself as a truck owner, but I'll say, I like my highway cruising rpm's to be under 2,000, as I think 99.9% do.
Going down the highway in a truck screaming 6k RPM's to make 325 HP isn't a relaxed cruising setup, nor is it a good towing setup... but that's just me.
I guess it's good for a promotional ad showing racing full RPM's up a hill. I personally don't do that with my truck, and don't care.

You'll notice the RAM makes 420 ft/lb of torque at a quiet, pleasant 2,000 rpm's. That's nice for relaxed towing and highway cruising.
You can also see on the chart that the Ford 2.7 has to be run 1,000 rpm's faster, and still only makes 375 ft/lb torque at that higher RPM.