Hydraulic Tee valve...

[fatwilliam]

I have a Ford 4630 with a loader attachment. The tractor has a single set of rear remotes. I recently bought a hydraulic scrape blade for the 3-point hitch. The blade has 2 cylinders-one for vertical and one for angling the blade. I'm currently using the blade by setting the vertical angle where I want it, then connecting the horizontal cylinder so it can be adjusted in use. What I'd love to have (besides a second set of remotes) would be some sort of switchable tee- one set of remotes in switchable to an "A" or"B" out.
I know I could connect one of the FEL hoses, but I use the FEL a lot when I'm using the blade.

 

[J_J]

Can you use something like this.

This valve will control flow to two cyl.

1/2" NPT 20 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/i9-4128.pdf

A divider valve will do the same using a solenoid.

SAE 8 15 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE 12 VDC P15544-1

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/i9-5117.pdf

 

[fatwilliam]

i think that's exactly what i need! Thank you very much.

Can you use something like this.

This valve will control flow to two cyl.

1/2" NPT 20 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/i9-4128.pdf

A divider valve will do the same using a solenoid.

SAE 8 15 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE 12 VDC P15544-1

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/i9-5117.pdf

 

[Tx Jim]

fatwilliam
You need to determine if your tractor is open center or CCLS. The 2 different hyd systems require different hyd valves or different attachment to 4630 hyd system.

 

[J_J]

If he is putting the selector valve in the work ports does he something different?

The selector valve switches flow from one cyl to another.

It does not need a feedback line.

 

[Tx Jim]

After rereading OP's post he would need the double spool valve to accomplish T-N-T plugged into original breakaways with tractor control locked open in one direction. This will work on either the open center or CCLS but one can't directly plumb either valve you listed into the CCLS hyd system. Plain as mud right? Did I state I don't like CCLS? I think I'm correct but hopefully someone will correct me if I'm incorrect.

 

[J_J]

Both those valve go on the cyl side of the valve, so once you provide flow to the cyl, it will act ormal.

The valve changes the routing between cyl.

How about you providing a run down how it might work.

He is wanting to control two cyl with one remote spool valve.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The valve that JJ linked to is fine. The problem with manual valves for the OPs situation is that to make it convenient to operate, it usually takes a lot of plumbing to get that result. The electric diverters are not that much money and are by far easier to get plumbed in.

Several options available, just need to do some research.

With the diverter after the remote outlets, it makes zero difference what type of hydraulic system a person has.

 

[RickB]

The valve that JJ linked to is fine. The problem with manual valves for the OPs situation is that to make it convenient to operate, it usually takes a lot of plumbing to get that result. The electric diverters are not that much money and are by far easier to get plumbed in.

Several options available, just need to do some research.

With the diverter after the remote outlets, it makes zero difference what type of hydraulic system a person has.

You and j_j are correct. A splitter connected to the remote's work ports will be neither open or closed center, it is simply a selector valve. Electric will be an easier more convenient install on this tractor.

 

[Tx Jim]

You and j_j are correct. A splitter connected to the remote's work ports will be neither open or closed center, it is simply a selector valve. Electric will be an easier more convenient install on this tractor.

So Rick does that mean my last statement is incorrect? I'm still trying to understand CCLS.
Thanks,Jim

 

[RickB]

So Rick does that mean my last statement is incorrect? I'm still trying to understand CCLS.
Thanks,Jim

Jim, You are incorrect.
The quirks and differences between open, closed, and ccls systems end at the spool valve so long as the spool valve is normally closed and used to control one (or in this case multiple) functions. The following applies to splitter valves only, not a downstream spool valve such as we discussed today in another thread. THIS particular poster wants to use a remote valve to control two functions independently. That requires a simple splitter valve with two ports recieving oil from the tractor remote and sending it back. And four ports, two each connected to each in/out port. A single spool directs flow from the tractor to one pair of work ports while blocking the other pair. This valve will receive the same controlled flow from the tractor remote whether the tractor is OC, CC or CCLS. Clear as mud? Let me know.

Fasse Valve - 2010 Consumer

 

[Tx Jim]

Rick
How is OP's hyd question different from a FEL with open center 2 spool valve plugged into the factory remotes of a CCLS? Maybe the difference I'm overlooking is in your statement "controlled flow from tractor remote"???
Thanks,Jim

 

[J_J]

The cyl do not care where the fluid comes from.

That is what he trying to do , control two cyl.

 

[RickB]

Rick
How is OP's hyd question different from a FEL with open center 2 spool valve plugged into the factory remotes of a CCLS? Maybe the difference I'm overlooking is in your statement "controlled flow from tractor remote"???
Thanks,Jim

That's the key. The tractor's remote valve is controlling the direction & flow here. In the case of a downstream valve, the tractor remote is providing flow but control is selected by the downstream valve. An open center valve will work here at the expense of the other remote valve which can do no work when pump flow is returning to tank. In the other thread, the poster really wanted to install a new joystick valve in parallel with existing CCLS remotes. That requires a CCLS joystick valve and proper connections.

 

[Tx Jim]

Rick
Thanks,Jim