Price Check Kioti DK40SE HST

[Coyote machine]

Of note, that is a special purpose grapple optomized for only one thing, picking up trees and logs. I have no doubt about it's ability to do that but it would be next to useless in clearing brush, picking up firewood or other general purpose grappling duties.

I disagree with your analysis of the GR-20. I use it for all kind of work, including gathering brush, hauling brush, etc. I also pick up huge boulders on a regular basis. I don't use it for digging per se because I have a backhoe and bucket/ripper tooth and hydraulically operated thumb.
Have you ever operated my model/brand grapple? If not passing judgement on what it can/can't do isn't helpful to anyone.

 

[IslandTractor]

I disagree with your analysis of the GR-20. I use it for all kind of work, including gathering brush, hauling brush, etc. I also pick up huge boulders on a regular basis. I don't use it for digging per se because I have a backhoe and bucket/ripper tooth and hydraulically operated thumb.
Have you ever operated my model/brand grapple? If not passing judgement on what it can/can't do isn't helpful to anyone.

I have no doubt it works fine for picking up items that are at a minimum the size of the grapple width. I challenge you to pick up a one foot long piece of anything. Even 18-24 inch object (or whatever the intertine difference is) would require careful positioning. No doubt it will handle big stuff but lots of what I do with a grapple involves collecting small stuff like rocks and piece of wood. I think the intertine distance on my grapple is a bit wide and it is only 8 or 9 inches.

I don't know what you use your grapple for but I'm quite sure company that made it sells primarily to the logging industry not the general purpose grapple market.

 

[Coyote machine]

I have no doubt it works fine for picking up items that are at a minimum the size of the grapple width. I challenge you to pick up a one foot long piece of anything. Even 18-24 inch object (or whatever the intertine difference is) would require careful positioning. No doubt it will handle big stuff but lots of what I do with a grapple involves collecting small stuff like rocks and piece of wood. I think the intertine distance on my grapple is a bit wide and it is only 8 or 9 inches.

I don't know what you use your grapple for but I'm quite sure company that made it sells primarily to the logging industry not the general purpose grapple market.

I've picked up many items smaller than the tine spacing, and if I wanted to pick up things smaller it requires just bolting an expended metal grate across the lower tines, but I've never seen the need to date. I bought the grapple at a small satellite office of a larger JD dealer here in VT. The sell everything, winches, grapples, chainsaws, tractors, small skidsteers, not by any means geared to strictly logging industry, in fact far from it. I stated what I use it for in prior post. No need to try to bash it as an all round device for CUTs. It's lightweight, strong has a small footprint and doesn't try to be both a bucket and grapple while being not well suited to either task. YMMV. Try one then tell me more about what it can/can't do.

 

[alancamby]

If you buy the KL401 loader with your DK40se, does it include a grill guard? I can't find anywhere on the Kioti site where is shows the grill guard included with the loader.

 

[k0ua]

If you buy the KL401 loader with your DK40se, does it include a grill guard? I can't find anywhere on the Kioti site where is shows the grill guard included with the loader.

I have never seen one without one, but it may very well be an option. I think all dealers just include it.. Lets put it this way, they all should include it...

 

[alancamby]

Off subject. Guess those new common rail engines really do make a lot of power. The NX6010 makes 60hp, only has 3 cylinders, and is less displacement then the DK40

 

[Coyote machine]

Off subject. Guess those new common rail engines really do make a lot of power. The NX6010 makes 60hp, only has 3 cylinders, and is less displacement then the DK40

If you're talking a tier four final or even a tier four interim you need a lot of HP to allow for the waste of power taken by the emissions reducing components now added to the engines.
But what is your point in relation to this thread?:confused2:

 

[grm61]

If you buy the KL401 loader with your DK40se, does it include a grill guard? I can't find anywhere on the Kioti site where is shows the grill guard included with the loader.

Yes, the grill guard comes with the KL 401 loader.
That was one of my questions as well when I was getting ready to buy, it does say so somewhere, but I can't remember where.

 

[Coyote machine]

The grill guard is pretty useless IMHO, BUT if you weld expanded metal between all the openings then you have a pretty effective grill guard. Ask me how I know this!

 

[blucoondawg]

The grill guard is very useless, the expanded metal will improve it as far as protecting from sticks and stuff poking in there but the thing is still too weak, if anything of heavy weight slams into it, such as a large stump rolling against it while your loader is up it will smash that guard right into your headlight assembly. Ask me how I know that. Coyote, that looks like a darn nice grapple, something like that would do me wonders, I like your idea for building a grate for between the bottom jaws for smaller stuff too, I will have to look into that brand.

 

[GManBart]

The grill guard is very useless, the expanded metal will improve it as far as protecting from sticks and stuff poking in there but the thing is still too weak, if anything of heavy weight slams into it, such as a large stump rolling against it while your loader is up it will smash that guard right into your headlight assembly. Ask me how I know that. Coyote, that looks like a darn nice grapple, something like that would do me wonders, I like your idea for building a grate for between the bottom jaws for smaller stuff too, I will have to look into that brand.

I don't recall if my LS grill guard is built much heavier than the one on the DK series, but I think some people might have unrealistic expectations of them.

I found mine really handy when loading 20 and 30yd rolloff dumpsters....max lift, trying to get as close as possible, and I bumped the containers plenty of times. The grill guard did it's job, and I didn't bend/break anything.

 

[k0ua]

I don't recall if my LS grill guard is built much heavier than the one on the DK series, but I think some people might have unrealistic expectations of them.

I found mine really handy when loading 20 and 30yd rolloff dumpsters....max lift, trying to get as close as possible, and I bumped the containers plenty of times. The grill guard did it's job, and I didn't bend/break anything.

It is fairly sturdy, but of course like anything, it could be destroyed. It has saved my grille a time or two pushing into brush/log piles. I am glad it is there.

 

[IslandTractor]

My grill guard has helped but as others have noted, it will not stop a branch from poking through into the hood front. Adding some mesh or grate would help I imagine. I just accept that small items will not do serious damage and that a tractor's face shouldn't have to look perfect anyways.

 

[davel8257]

This is sounding like a Kioti "love-fest"... ok. My 2 cents: I live 14 miles from my Kioti dealer. It is a small, family-owned operation that only deals in Kioti tractors and a few implements on-hand (he can order anything). He could sell any other brand. But, he doesn't. He chooses to sell and service Kioti and that is what puts food on the table. He's been there 20+ years and judging by the new inventory on the lot, he's going to be there for a while longer. I'm very happy with DS45 - I 'over bought' by about 10 HP. I run mine at a fast idle most of the time, sips less than 1/2 gallon of fuel an hour and makes my life much more enjoyable. Yeah, it's a bunch of money (ok -- it's a LOT of money in my book) -- but worth it. I'm not looking back. I'll be using this tractor 20+ yrs.

 

[kas2960]

Talking around 22k The Bota match would be a L4260 or L4240 if you can find one.

Here in Canada I'm quoted $27K plus tax so looking at $31K. Nice tractor though. Very well put together!. Plus nice little extras.

 

[rmorey]

Here in Canada I'm quoted $27K plus tax so looking at $31K. Nice tractor though. Very well put together!. Plus nice little extras.

Kas, that price might be a little high. I bought last April DK40 HST Cab with loaded R1's, 2nd remote, welded bucket hooks and set of filters for 50 hour change. Paid $25,735 with free loader plus tax. Probably $3k - 5k less without cab. Just outside of Ottawa.

 

[kas2960]

Kas, that price might be a little high. I bought last April DK40 HST Cab with loaded R1's, 2nd remote, welded bucket hooks and set of filters for 50 hour change. Paid $25,735 with free loader plus tax. Probably $3k - 5k less without cab. Just outside of Ottawa.

I agree. I want to wait until the loader is free. Adds 5K to the price. Kioti is only giving $3.8K off right now. Did you look at a DK35 HST ? If so was there was much difference in price?

 

[rmorey]

I agree. I want to wait until the loader is free. Adds 5K to the price. Kioti is only giving $3.8K off right now. Did you look at a DK35 HST ? If so was there was much difference in price?

The problem with waiting, is the US Dollar is rising relative to the Loonie. The lower the loonie goes, the more expensive the tractor becomes. Dollar is 10% off from a year ago. Maybe a quote from another dealer is in order. Where in Ontario are you?

 

[Coyote machine]

The problem with waiting, is the US Dollar is rising relative to the Loonie. The lower the loonie goes, the more expensive the tractor becomes. Dollar is 10% off from a year ago. Maybe a quote from another dealer is in order. Where in Ontario are you?

I like when my dollars smash other currencies and I get more bang per buck!:drink:

Is a 'loonie' like a crazed *Canadian hockey player, with no front teeth, hurtling down the freeway toward our American way of life?!:shocked:

*I am a dual citizen with Canada and US, so I can poke fun with impunity.:thumbsup:

 

[rmorey]

I like when my dollars smash other currencies and I get more bang per buck!:drink:

Is a 'loonie' like a crazed *Canadian hockey player, with no front teeth, hurtling down the freeway toward our American way of life?!:shocked:

*I am a dual citizen with Canada and US, so I can poke fun with impunity.:thumbsup:

Our socialized medicine would have fixed his front teeth. :laughing: