DeereMann
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Goes waaaaaaay back to when we had "Service Stations". Remember those? "You can trust your car to the man who wears the star........"
START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800??
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Goes waaaaaaay back to when we had "Service Stations". Remember those? "You can trust your car to the man who wears the star........"
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jodebg
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I notice the white smoke while it is cranking. Is this a problem and what could be the problem?
DK35vince
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Are your running the glow plugs before your trying to start?
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jodebg
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This got me thinking and decided to investigate the issue before pouring in the Rotella that I purchased this morning. I have been using
Redline synthetic oil in my autos and trucks for years, as well as their Fuel System Cleaner.
I spoke with the tech and he confirmed that the full synthetic oils purchased on store shelves are technically not full synthetic oils. They are class 3 oils
and the US govt. allows them to use the term in this category. Kind of like "all natural" labels found in supermarkets-very misleading.
He explained that Reline synthetic is a class 5 fully synthesized oil which is totally different in composition and performance.
I also inquired about their fuel additive-Diesel Fuel Catalyst. I was curious to see where their lubricity rating was in comparison to the leading brands found in the
independent study. The Redline diesel fuel product tested at 280 microns-better than Opti-Lube and the rest of the listed products.
All the test results are published and available on their website for your review.
I placed an order today for the Reline 5w-40 full synthetic engine oil and their Diesel Fuel catalyst-multipurpose product.
FYI...they also make a product called 85 Plus which is the same product. Sold in different areas.
Thanks for heads-up RalphVa.
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jodebg
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I am holding the key in the first position for 12-20 seconds before engaging the starter.
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figured out how to remove the panels today-very tight but came off with a bit of leverage.
engine now nice and clean.
Have to add coolant. The coolant is a green color. Any idea as to what brand to use for this 2004 machine?
Changing the fuel filter tomorrow..any tricks I should know about?
engine now nice and clean.
Have to add coolant. The coolant is a green color. Any idea as to what brand to use for this 2004 machine?
Changing the fuel filter tomorrow..any tricks I should know about?
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As already stated it doesn't matter so long as it's mixed to the right ratio. Read the container.
Fuel filter- if there's a shutoff on the fuel bowl, shut it off before removing the filter. Then turn it on after installing the new one.
What tech did you speak to that told you the full synthetic oils aren't full synthetic oils?!:confused2::shocked:
And, for discussion sake, say he's correct, what real difference do you think you'd see on a 2004 diesel engine on a small tractor between 'true' full synthetic, and 'fake' full synthetic? ANY synthetic is going to be better than the dino oil run in it since 2004. And it's not like you're going to run it in pro drag racing or the Indy 500 anyway, right?
Furthermore, and after spending several hours researching synthetic oils and their ilk, it's not quite as simple as 'natural' foods or 'organic' produce but here is the wiki dictionary def on synthetic oils; (and unless you're running a turbine powered jet engine, 'fake' synthetics should do fine for your diesel tractor, IMHO). I've run Amsoil, Mobil 1, and Rotella T6 in my tractors with absolutely NO issues whatsoever. When I had my foreign auto shop we sold exclusively Castrol 5w-30 oil, in the days before synthetic was commonplace, (except Amsoil), from 55 gallon barrels I bought in bulk.
FWIW,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
BTW, Redline 5w-40 is not a diesel specific specked oil, their 15w-40 diesel oil is. Don't know if that matters to you but at $12/qt you must like buying expensive oil.:confused3:
I used to also sell Redline's Diesel fuel catalyst for all my diesel Benz and other customers. At the time it was the only product Benz approved/endorsed for their engines. It helped thaw out many frozen fuel lines/filters....
Fuel filter- if there's a shutoff on the fuel bowl, shut it off before removing the filter. Then turn it on after installing the new one.
What tech did you speak to that told you the full synthetic oils aren't full synthetic oils?!:confused2::shocked:
And, for discussion sake, say he's correct, what real difference do you think you'd see on a 2004 diesel engine on a small tractor between 'true' full synthetic, and 'fake' full synthetic? ANY synthetic is going to be better than the dino oil run in it since 2004. And it's not like you're going to run it in pro drag racing or the Indy 500 anyway, right?
Furthermore, and after spending several hours researching synthetic oils and their ilk, it's not quite as simple as 'natural' foods or 'organic' produce but here is the wiki dictionary def on synthetic oils; (and unless you're running a turbine powered jet engine, 'fake' synthetics should do fine for your diesel tractor, IMHO). I've run Amsoil, Mobil 1, and Rotella T6 in my tractors with absolutely NO issues whatsoever. When I had my foreign auto shop we sold exclusively Castrol 5w-30 oil, in the days before synthetic was commonplace, (except Amsoil), from 55 gallon barrels I bought in bulk.
FWIW,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
BTW, Redline 5w-40 is not a diesel specific specked oil, their 15w-40 diesel oil is. Don't know if that matters to you but at $12/qt you must like buying expensive oil.:confused3:
I used to also sell Redline's Diesel fuel catalyst for all my diesel Benz and other customers. At the time it was the only product Benz approved/endorsed for their engines. It helped thaw out many frozen fuel lines/filters....
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DeereMann
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White diesel engine exhaust smoke is unburned frozen fuel particles in the exhaust stream - the combustion chamber is not hot enought to burn it. You should check to see if your glow plugs are working - check the relay first to see if it is working, then the glow plugs. I have not heard of white smoke on engine cranking unless the glow plugs are not working.
Good luck,
Good luck,
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jodebg
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"BTW, Redline 5w-40 is not a diesel specific specked oil, their 15w-40 diesel oil is.".......
My manual calls for CE, CE, OR CF OIL. Dave at Redline said this would work in the diesel tractor. The 5w-40 is rated CF.
When I checked the API classifications on the Rotella T6 I did not see CF??
My manual calls for CE, CE, OR CF OIL. Dave at Redline said this would work in the diesel tractor. The 5w-40 is rated CF.
When I checked the API classifications on the Rotella T6 I did not see CF??