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[dwyanehicks]

Notachance, are you still here? Thanks for this info. I replaced the rear sensor and got rid of my warning, but the front axle still breaks. Disconnected the rear sensor only, and the machine runs and turns fine. From your info, might this mean the front sensor is not working, despite there being no warning? Or could this mean the magnets in the rear need replacing? Can't think of anything else.

Your issue is probably related to the speed sensors in the axles. Test this by turning off axle matching (procedure in the operators manual) and test the machine. There is probably a sensor that is not picking up a signal and the one that is getting a signal is being cut back to match the no signal axle. Another way to test it is to unplug the speed sensors in the axles and run the machine.

 

[Oiltech]

I read all of the posts on this thread and it seems there are some problems in the earlier models. Also I searched on YouTube for mowing videos and there really isn't much there with any detail. I own 12.5 acres and would like to know if this would be a good choice in lieu of a ZTR?

 

[Xfaxman]

I read all of the posts on this thread and it seems there are some problems in the earlier models. Also I searched on YouTube for mowing videos and there really isn't much there with any detail. I own 12.5 acres and would like to know if this would be a good choice in lieu of a ZTR?

Well it sure is a lot bigger than a Zero Turn and with other attachments it will do more than a ZTR.

If you need to mow, and use other attachments, with a cab, the toolcat with 4 wheel steer and 4 wheel drive, is at the top of the list.

The TORO Groundsmaster 360 Quad-Steer, would be high on the mow and remove snow only list.

Toro | Groundsmasterｮ 360 Quad-Steer

If you also need to brush hog, get the Toolcat! :thumbsup:

This is mine, with the 7' brush hog.

 

[johnnaz1122]

Hi, Work mode was difficult to engage a couple of times, then stopped engaging all together.
pad feels ok, W indicator light comes on with ignition, checked fuses . Any ideas? 5600D
thanks.

 

[johnnaz1122]

Hi,my Toolcat will not engage W mode. the push pad feels ok , the Work light will come on with ignition only.
It started off being difficult to engage a couple of times and then would not engage anymore, thanks

 

[SSdoxie]

Hi,my Toolcat will not engage W mode. the push pad feels ok , the Work light will come on with ignition only.
It started off being difficult to engage a couple of times and then would not engage anymore, thanks

Are you in Low Range when switching to work mode. It will not work in Hi, light will come on but work mode will not change.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I had considered getting one of these but had second thoughts. First of course was the high price tag. I see it as a bit more of a toy, especially with those dinky wheels. Can't have much breakout force.

And as a utility vehicle, it has a very heavy ride, I found.

Generally speaking, I have found that a machine that can do everything doesn't do anything exceptionally well.

There is no doubt about it. The toolcat is nice, but I don't think it's the be all, end all it's made out to be.

Then of course, there were the overheating problems. Curious if that was completely resolved on the newer models.

 

[Xfaxman]

I had considered getting one of these but had second thoughts. First of course was the high price tag. I see it as a bit more of a toy, especially with those dinky wheels. Can't have much breakout force.

Don't see a listing for breakout force, but it doesn't have any trouble curling a 1500 pound hay bale or the 1800 pound 7' brush hog.


And as a utility vehicle, it has a very heavy ride, I found.

Generally speaking, I have found that a machine that can do everything doesn't do anything exceptionally well.

It does exceptionally well with the brush hog. :thumbsup:


There is no doubt about it. The toolcat is nice, but I don't think it's the be all, end all it's made out to be.

Then of course, there were the overheating problems. Curious if that was completely resolved on the newer models.

No overheating problems with the F series.

Very stable on sidehills.

 

[aczlan]

Well it sure is a lot bigger than a Zero Turn and with other attachments it will do more than a ZTR.
If you need to mow, and use other attachments, with a cab, the toolcat with 4 wheel steer and 4 wheel drive, is at the top of the list.
The TORO Groundsmaster 360 Quad-Steer, would be high on the mow and remove snow only list.
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Toro | Groundsmasterｮ 360 Quad-Steer
If you also need to brush hog, get the Toolcat! :thumbsup:
This is mine, with the 7' brush hog.
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A Kubota F3680 with a cab, 72" rear discharge mower and 51" mower would be cheaper than a Groundsmaster with a cab and a 72" deck.

Aaron Z

 

[Industrial Toys]

That is an impressive picture with the mower. Put lexan in the windows, run flat tires and you would have one **** of a crowd control machine. No one would want to mouth off to that!

I had a thought that Bobcat should have a double suspension in the front. Just like on my truck rear. Soft springs for a smooth ride that give way to heavier springs for load carrying. Or an air ride, that one could lower onto beefier springs.

The later version of Toolcat with the 3ph made me question, why not just get a tractor. The visability to the 3PH is much better for hook up and seeing what's happening which I usually find essential. Plus the big wheel, small wheel is a configuration that seems to work well although I prefer articulation.



Curious, is there a Def front and back with one hyd motor or two?

I'm always toying with obscure questions. If I had to only have one machine, what would it be, or, if I had all the money in the world, what would I buy? Kind of clears things up a little. In the course of one of those excercises, the toolcat crossed my mind, but now I am not so sure.

I always liked the JCB robot for the side entry, although not the brand. I have never owned a skid steer, and especially with getting older, don't like the front entry, but recognise the awesome visabilty to the cutting edge and maneuverability. Just saw that VOLVO now has a similar machine, the C series (one with rubber tracks) and I must say I'm smitten! It's nice to have fantasies!

 

[Xfaxman]

A Kubota F3680 with a cab, 72" rear discharge mower and 51" mower would be cheaper than a Groundsmaster with a cab and a 72" deck.

Aaron Z

Does the Kubota cab have air conditioning like the Groundsmaster?

 

[aczlan]

Does the Kubota cab have air conditioning like the Groundsmaster?

The $36k (list) one doesn't have AC, only heat...

Aaron Z

 

[Xfaxman]

That is an impressive picture with the mower. Put lexan in the windows, run flat tires and you would have one **** of a crowd control machine. No one would want to mouth off to that!

I had a thought that Bobcat should have a double suspension in the front. Just like on my truck rear. Soft springs for a smooth ride that give way to heavier springs for load carrying. Or an air ride, that one could lower onto beefier springs.

It sorta does, front and rear.
No weight on the loader and rubber compressed with 800 pounds on the SSQA.


The later version of Toolcat with the 3ph made me question, why not just get a tractor. Visibility in the Toolcat to the front is much better. Tractors don't have suspension, 4 wheel steering and crab steering. The visability to the 3PH is much better for hook up and seeing what's happening which I usually find essential. Plus the big wheel, small wheel is a configuration that seems to work well although I prefer articulation.

Curious, is there a Dif front and back with one hyd motor or two? One, with driveshafts front and back.

I'm always toying with obscure questions. If I had to only have one machine, what would it be, or, if I had all the money in the world, what would I buy? Kind of clears things up a little. In the course of one of those excercises, the toolcat crossed my mind, but now I am not so sure.

I always liked the JCB robot for the side entry, although not the brand. I have never owned a skid steer, and especially with getting older, don't like the front entry, but recognise the awesome visabilty to the cutting edge and maneuverability. Just saw that VOLVO now has a similar machine,[made by JCB] the C series (one with rubber tracks) and I must say I'm smitten! It's nice to have fantasies!

This is my choice for one machine, a Bobcat V417 Versahandler.


Size compared to the Toolcat.

It is 6' wide, 6.5' high and 13' long. Tire size is 14x17.5. Top speed is 15.5 mph and it will lift over 5,000 pounds!

More info here: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...t/160568-compact-telehandler.html#post3243370

And http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/273429-toolcat-v417.html

 

[yellowdogsvc]

There is not end-all or be all machine as someone stated.
I just took delivery of an F series 5600 with most options. I also have a Bobcat s750 set up for mulching and I have a 335 excavator and a Bobcat UTV and a couple of mules, big chipper etc. It all depends on what you need to do.
If I didn't have anything else, I could make do with the Toolcat to maintain 100+ acres that I have. I live in a rocky area and nothing is level. We have +/- 200ft rise and fall across the property. The Toolcat would not be up to the task of clearing or making the roads that I did with the Bobcat and excavator but it would do exceptionally well as maintaining everything. I have only had the F series for about 13 hours but I have about 600 hours on a B series I also own.

JCB/Volvo same thing. I have compared JCB side by side with my Bobcat and I wasn't impressed with much other than the side entry but I'm so used to climbing into a skidsteer 12,000+ hours in several different skids, that it's just natural to climb in. Just getting into the Toolcat took some getting used to with the reverse opening doors.

Anyway, the Toolcat is pricey but it does have impressive digging, lift, and especially hydraulic power for a 5800 lb machine that travels smoothly at 20 mph. There is night and day difference in ride quality from B to F series. Will the F series hold up in my terrain? I hope so. I think the shocks and suspension look a little small for the weight but I've not heard too many complaint from others who have had theirs longer.

A guy can get a good, used Toolcat for less than half of a new one and do pretty much the same things. I like the dump box over the 3pt because I can carry my tools, saws, fencing, etc and free up the lift arms to bring the grapple, mower, etc. And though hydraulic attachments are pricey, having a mower out front and the ability to switch quickly to a grapple, forks, auger, etc. etc., is priceless to me.
It all boils down to what someone can afford and what they need to do. The Toolcat is in a class by itself. I'm no stranger to tractors and though the lift height isn't where a larger tractor would be, the digging and down force is better. i use a 4n1 bucket as a tooth bucket and it makes short work of grading my rough, caliche and base roads on a fairly steep incline and it is much more useful than pulling a box blade.

 

[Xfaxman]

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It all boils down to what someone can afford and what they need to do. The Toolcat is in a class by itself. I'm no stranger to tractors and though the lift height isn't where a larger tractor would be, the digging and down force is better. i use a 4n1 bucket as a tooth bucket and it makes short work of grading my rough, caliche and base roads on a fairly steep incline and it is much more useful than pulling a box blade.

You can still use a box blade on a 5600, like a dozer blade pushing forward, or pulling in reverse with the loader in float, using curl to dig or drag.

My 6' box blade is on a Tilt-Tach.

 

[Tlysflys]

Time to change oil and filter on my F series. Dumb question: where is the drain plug? Any special hints or suggestions?

 

[Xfaxman]

Time to change oil and filter on my F series. Dumb question: where is the drain plug? Any special hints or suggestions?

Dumb answer: at the bottom the oil pan. I guess you mean the engine oil?

No tips, haven't changed mine yet.

 

[SSdoxie]

Time to change oil and filter on my F series. Dumb question: where is the drain plug? Any special hints or suggestions?

There is cut out (notch) in the frame for the drain plug on Right Hand Side just below the access door where the oil dipstick, fill tube, and oil filter are.

Dumb answer: at the bottom the oil pan. I guess you mean the engine oil?

What after all those pictures you have taken, you haven't got 50 hrs. on it yet? or have gone over 50 and changed it? SHAME ON YOU :laughing:

No tips, haven't changed mine yet.

 

[Tlysflys]

Thanks, at first I did not see the drain plug, but went back and finally found it.

 

[Xfaxman]

There is cut out (notch) in the frame for the drain plug on Right Hand Side just below the access door where the oil dipstick, fill tube, and oil filter are.

Dumb answer: at the bottom the oil pan. I guess you mean the engine oil?

What after all those pictures you have taken, you haven't got 50 hrs. on it yet? or have gone over 50 and not changed it? SHAME ON YOU :laughing:

No tips, haven't changed mine yet.

No, just too old to remember. That was way last year! After I read your post, I remembered changing it and writing the date on the oil filter.

Changed the hydraulic oil filter also.