Mahindra Mforce 100S

[maxtractor3621]

Hey guys just wanted to share the new Mahindra Mforce 100S walkaround and overview

 

[Sysop]

Nice tractor but a little too much fluff for my needs. Wouldn't mind seeing a walkaround/overview of the open station. I find it interesting they're purchasing engines directly from Perkins rather than continuing to build Perkins' designs themselves.

 

[maxtractor3621]

unfortunately they don't offer a open station for the 100S&P only the 8560 and mpower models at this time...

 

[Sysop]

That's ok, they have about 4 or 5 years before I'll be looking for one this size. That's plenty of time for them to complete one for me

I just love my weather too much to set inside a fishbowl. I realize I'm odd, but I honestly prefer open station. The few times I've been into things a cab would be nice for, some bee netting or a sheet of plastic strategically hung would suffice. 99% of the time I don't have such concerns, beautiful sunny skies are...

Any knowledge on why they're sourcing the engine from Perkins? From reading I've seen that their engine development has been heavily reliant on partnerships with Perkins and others. They also have engines in this range in machines they build and sell in India. The only reason why I can think of off hand would be that it was the quickest or least expensive way to meet the new emissions standards.

 

[TomSeller]

Any knowledge on why they're sourcing the engine from Perkins? From reading I've seen that their engine development has been heavily reliant on partnerships with Perkins and others. They also have engines in this range in machines they build and sell in India. The only reason why I can think of off hand would be that it was the quickest or least expensive way to meet the new emissions standards.

Perkins is now making engines in 6 countries as far as I know so it could be capacity. It might be that they want to keep the newest technology in house. Good idea to stay with Perkins.

 

[Sysop]

Perkins is huge and among the best, no doubt. I don't figure there is a diesel engine manufacturer out there that hasn't paid Perkins for something or another they've needed over the years. The ownership by Caterpillar and partnership with Shibaura hasn't affected them in any bad ways I've seen.

I agree the most likely reasoning is the newer technology in the tier IV systems. I just wondered if it's part of an existing agreement for past technologies they've acquired, whether Perkins is keeping it in house for their own reasons, if Mahindra went with Perkins due to costs, or whatever other reasons might be behind it (I just like to learn about such things so it never hurts to ask). Your thought on manufacturing capacity may have something to do with it as well. I was hoping our dealer friend that posted the video might do a little research and see. I think Mahindra sourcing Perkins' built motors could be a big thing for their sales numbers. I'm more curious if it's something that would continue and under what circumstances or conditions.

I'm nowhere near ready for my next tractor, but knowing Mahindra was entering some sorta long term agreement to source Perkin's engines would definitely be something of interest on my next go-around. (keep in mind I'm not married nor infatuated by any colors so for Mahindra to be my next one, they must sell me all over again, on whatever it is I need when the time comes.)

 

[TomSeller]

I'm nowhere near ready for my next tractor, but knowing Mahindra was entering some sorta long term agreement to source Perkin's engines would definitely be something of interest on my next go-around.

With a Perkins it could be a long time before you are. I have two older Masseys with Perkins engines. Solid engines and I'm sure with Cat brought that philosophy forward.

 

[Sysop]

With a Perkins it could be a long time before you are. I have two older Masseys with Perkins engines. Solid engines and I'm sure with Cat brought that philosophy forward.

Actually I'm guessing that well within the next 8 years or so I'll be in the market for a 70-100HP for other tasks I'll be taking on. No clue what it will be, I've worked with and around more brands than I care to count and loved them all (one of the joys of never having owned one is also never having to spend your weekends cussing and repairing one ), but I've been around long enough and gained enough experience in my time that I know they make different kinds of hammers to be used on different kinds of work and the same is true about tractors. I'd love OP to come back with any sort of information on the current state of the Perkins/Mahindra relationship, even if it only pertains to this one tractor. Whether it provides any information that proves useful in my future decisions I'll not know until the time comes.

When making my first purchase, knowing Perkins was at least partially behind the general design of the engine for my unit was among what I considered to be "in the positive column". The engine in my unit is quite similar to some of their old wet sleeve designs of the 60s with an interim tier IV induction and emissions system from Bosch on it. I'm pleased as can be with the purchase I made, it fulfills the tasks it was purchased for great and will continue to do so. The next one on the other hand will have a different set of tasks and could end up being any brand. It totally depends on what all ends up on the list of tasks for it, what is available at the time, and which of the available units would best suit that new task list. For instance, I won't need a front end loader or a backhoe, that's what the 4035 is for...

Mahindra needs to sell itself to me again (not that continued good experiences with my 4035 won't play some role in selling them). It would be nice if more brands had dealers that were members here. I know there are two or three Mahindra dealers that are regulars here. We could pick their brains as they have time and have some really good brand versus brand discussions and comparisons.

 

[TomSeller]

Actually I'm guessing that well within the next 8 years or so I'll be in the market for a 70-100HP for other tasks I'll be taking on.

If you can swing it keep the existing one. That's what happened to me. I have bought 11 but never sold any. If you have lots of storage space it sure makes it easier. None of mine sit outside.

 

[Pieter78]

I like it....

 

[PoorPlowboy]

Nice tractor. Any pricing information for the public? For a little humor; is it the microphone or the new Perkins missing on one cylinder?

 

[Sysop]

If you can swing it keep the existing one. That's what happened to me. I have bought 11 but never sold any. If you have lots of storage space it sure makes it easier. None of mine sit outside.

My 4035 has found it's lifetime home (whether that be my lifetime or the lifetime of the tractor). I'll not be getting rid of it, and I expect it will outlast me... Right now it lives in a big old barn. Next summer I'll be breaking ground on a new 60x40x14 metal shed with a 15' lean-to/awning on the long side with a 25' extended gable on one end (that's the plan anyway). Plenty of "toy boxes" are what every good boy needs to keep his play things in order I'm in full agreement with you, weather and UV are the biggest destroyers of equipment (besides the little goofs we make that break things).

 

[Sysop]

Nice tractor. Any pricing information for the public?

+1

For a little humor; is it the microphone or the new Perkins missing on one cylinder?

I like the character of the signature Perkins sound. Seems their turbo models have lost a lot of it.

 

[SPYDERLK]

That's ok, they have about 4 or 5 years before I'll be looking for one this size. That's plenty of time for them to complete one for me

I just love my weather too much to set inside a fishbowl. I realize I'm odd, but I honestly prefer open station. The few times I've been into things a cab would be nice for, some bee netting or a sheet of plastic strategically hung would suffice. 99% of the time I don't have such concerns, beautiful sunny skies are...

I have serious doubts about them being that responsive. Still with the 12 speed. Less hyd delivery than the 7520. More power, but essentially the only difference is power shuttle and mandatory cab.
larry

 

[Sysop]

I have serious doubts about them being that responsive. Still with the 12 speed. Less hyd delivery than the 7520. More power, but essentially the only difference is power shuttle and mandatory cab.
larry

Me too. I think they should release it as open station. The MPower 85 comes as either...

 

[maxtractor3621]

I wanted tohave a little more understanding before i responded. After gaining some more info in regards to the perkins engine I have found that this was the best motor that is available for what Mahindra wanted to do with the 100HP. they designed and built the Mforce 100P & S around the perkins engine. like it was stated earlier we all know the reliability of a Perkins.
The current 2013 Mahindra 100S & P models are actually tier 3. in the next few years Mahindra will introduce their own tier 4 complaint engine which will not offer a DPF filter on any of there engines. this change will take place in the coming years. Mahindra has completely redesigned their engine by spending 20 million in research and bringing the right engineers and designer to the table in order to redo the engine still offering a larger heavier 1 piece block with wet sleeves, and more techincal points that to be honest are over my head.( as i learn more I will share more in that regard)

The Perkins engine is a 4 cylinder in case that part did cut out. also yes the standard package does offer a 12x12 power shuttle trans the premium offers a 32x32 power shuttle trans on it. I hope I have answered some questions and please feel free to ask more. I learn more everyday here from everyone.

 

[maxtractor3621]

Nice tractor. Any pricing information for the public? For a little humor; is it the microphone or the new Perkins missing on one cylinder?

As of now only certain dealers are trained and aloud to sell the MFORCE 100's so a ton of information has not been released. We have tried to get some information out as much as we could. I dont know if I am aloud to post pricing on here being I do work for a dealer. Not from Mahindra's end per say but from the this web sites end. I dont want to openly advertise on here, but if you want to know more please feel free to pm me and I Can give you a good ball park on them

 

[Sysop]

I wanted tohave a little more understanding before i responded. After gaining some more info in regards to the perkins engine I have found that this was the best motor that is available for what Mahindra wanted to do with the 100HP. they designed and built the Mforce 100P & S around the perkins engine. like it was stated earlier we all know the reliability of a Perkins.
The current 2013 Mahindra 100S & P models are actually tier 3. in the next few years Mahindra will introduce their own tier 4 complaint engine which will not offer a DPF filter on any of there engines. this change will take place in the coming years. Mahindra has completely redesigned their engine by spending 20 million in research and bringing the right engineers and designer to the table in order to redo the engine still offering a larger heavier 1 piece block with wet sleeves, and more techincal points that to be honest are over my head.( as i learn more I will share more in that regard)

The Perkins engine is a 4 cylinder in case that part did cut out. also yes the standard package does offer a 12x12 power shuttle trans the premium offers a 32x32 power shuttle trans on it. I hope I have answered some questions and please feel free to ask more. I learn more everyday here from everyone.

All very interesting and I thank you VERY much for your time in finding out this information. I find the whole tierIV without DPF very interesting as well.

 

[maxtractor3621]

All very interesting and I thank you VERY much for your time in finding out this information. I find the whole tierIV without DPF very interesting as well.

From what I understand most of the other manufacturers are simply bolting on the DPF filter and going about it that way. I did ask you know why did Mahindra decide to completely change their engines when some of the other big names are just adding the filter. the main reason was the cost associated to it for the other manufacturers. like I had stated earlier it cost Mahindra 20 million to do it. they had a pretty good sense of how to go about it, being they have already done it to their line of trucks and SUV's that are available overseas.
it is going to be a common rail diesel engine. Which I will be able to explain more about after next months national dealer meeting. I am looking forward to being able to explain that more in depth next month

 

[maxtractor3621]

My 4035 has found it's lifetime home (whether that be my lifetime or the lifetime of the tractor). I'll not be getting rid of it, and I expect it will outlast me... Right now it lives in a big old barn. Next summer I'll be breaking ground on a new 60x40x14 metal shed with a 15' lean-to/awning on the long side with a 25' extended gable on one end (that's the plan anyway). Plenty of "toy boxes" are what every good boy needs to keep his play things in order I'm in full agreement with you, weather and UV are the biggest destroyers of equipment (besides the little goofs we make that break things).

I wanted to ask you even though its totally off topic. What made you decide to go with the Mahindra 4035? I know why i would but from your consumers perspective what made you decide?