hauling a 8,000lb tractor

[flyingcow]

i am in the position of needing to update pickups. i have a 2006 Dmax,3500 crew, 8ft bed, SRW. I really only need the pickup to haul my 26ft GN 3 or 4 times a yr(8,000lb tractor), inside of 20 miles. i really want a 1/2 ton ride most of the time. I am leaning towards an big liter 1/2 ton and putting air bags boosters on the suspension. Biggest and best for tranny coolers.

Any thoughts? And i have very little concern for the LEO's in this set up.

FWIW, i drive a 100,000lb truck for a living.

Also, only put on 10,000 miles a yr in my pickup.

 

[94BULLITT]

If I understood correctly you want to haul a 8000lb tractor on a gooseneck. IDK how much your gooseneck weighs but that load will probably exceed the tow ratings for a 1/2 ton.

 

[kenmac]

If I understood correctly you want to haul a 8000lb tractor on a gooseneck. IDK how much your gooseneck weighs but that load will probably exceed the tow ratings for a 1/2 ton.

I AGREE, What does the GN weigh ?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Sounds like a job for a F150 Eco Boost. Drive one with 3.73 gears, not 3.55, 3.31, or 3.15's. You will be done with a big motor.

Chris

 

[farmall 55a case]

I want your duramax!

 

[kenmac]

Sounds like a job for a F150 Eco Boost. Drive one with 3.73 gears, not 3.55, 3.31, or 3.15's. You will be done with a big motor.

Chris

Pulling that much weight will kill that gas burner 6 cyl. Probably looking at what 12-13K ?

 

[Soundguy]

I AGREE, What does the GN weigh ?

figure it's gotta be in the neighborhood of 4k depending on ramp design and body style.. might be a lil lower.. or a lil more.. but that should be ballpark.

4k trailer and 8k tractor... That has to be pinching even an exagerated 1/2 ton tow rating. not counting the gn adapter plate / hitch being added to the truck, and the weight of the helper suspension being added..

Wow.. and to think i got rid of a half ton and moved into a 1 ton to tow safer. this guy is aiming for near opposite direction on the hardware... Can't wait to see where this thread goes.

 

[kenmac]

figure it's gotta be in the neighborhood of 4k depending on ramp design and body style.. might be a lil lower.. or a lil more.. but that should be ballpark.

4k trailer and 8k tractor... That has to be pinching even an exagerated 1/2 ton tow rating.

Well, I was thinking somewhere around 4-6 K for the GN. It's got to be heavy built to haul an 8 K tractor

 

[Soundguy]

Well, I was thinking somewhere around 4-6 K for the GN. It's got to be heavy built to haul an 8 K tractor

at one local trailer place.. they have 14k rated gn's in a range of 3400# to 4300# the light ones have smaller, fixed, flipover ramps and only 1 jack, and the beavertail is wood, no rub rail.. just some stake pockets... the 4300# has rub rail.. 1 or 2 jacks, and flip over hd ramps that also slide or detach, beaver is self cleaning metal.

both are 14k rated.. teh one with ld ramps.. I'd figure it's more for carrying 1-3 smaller items. not 1 heavy one.. kinda like landscape trailer vs a car hauler. got thos here. both are rated 7k ( axles.... ) one has expanded metal floor very light, and ramp gate... . a ford 8n may fall thru the e-m deck. other has wood deck.. heavy ramps. weighs more.


go figure.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

There is a similar thread going around right now from a guy with a Dodge Dakota trying to figure it all out. I'll make this short; go to a reliable trailer dealer and have them run the numbers. They have a computer program that will take the guessing out of it.. As a CDL commercial operator you must see plenty of the tail wagging the dog PU and trailer combos. I was behind one a while back, a 1/2 or 3/4 with a GN and a track hoe behind, slight down grade, car cut him off, he slammed on the brakes. He was all over 3 lanes trying to get it straight. How he missed everybody is a miracle much less that he somehow kept it out of the ditch. When I passed he was parking it. Probably had to clean his shorts some. A reliable trailer dealer is one like mine; if the tow rig you have is inadequate they will not deliver the trailer on their premises.

Ron

 

[schmism]

Sounds like a job for a F150 Eco Boost. Drive one with 3.73 gears, not 3.55, 3.31, or 3.15's.

so I think to myself there is NO WAY they will let you put 3K payload in a 1/2 ton truck....

marketing department says otherwise..... per ford... F150 Eco Boost 4x2 with max super payload upgrade comes with 3100 lbs payload. but you only get 11000lbs tow rateing.

you could get 8K payload on a 12K bumperpull but it will never happen on a GN. from other threads GN trailers seem to have a curb weight of something close to twice that of a BP version. havnt seen many 3K GN mostly 5K.

 

[flyingcow]

i figured this would get some of you scratching your heads. More than likely i will opt for a 3/4 ton ride. But I do want to find a eco-boost with low gears to try out, thanks Diamond pilot. Maybe they don't even put the eco in a 3/4 ton.

 

[flyingcow]

I want your duramax!

Here you go.

 

[farmall 55a case]

That's a great looking truck! Just my color to! Case IH red!

 

[Diamondpilot]

so I think to myself there is NO WAY they will let you put 3K payload in a 1/2 ton truck....

marketing department says otherwise..... per ford... F150 Eco Boost 4x2 with max super payload upgrade comes with 3100 lbs payload. but you only get 11000lbs tow rateing.

you could get 8K payload on a 12K bumperpull but it will never happen on a GN. from other threads GN trailers seem to have a curb weight of something close to twice that of a BP version. havnt seen many 3K GN mostly 5K.

Yes, the proper setup is key.

Chris

 

[newbury]

C'mon guys what about some special factors

haul my 26ft GN 3 or 4 times a yr(8,000lb tractor), inside of 20 miles....

And i have very little concern for the LEO's in this set up.

If he has a CDL and no concern for LEO's what's the weight of his trailer?

I don't see any side rails. It could be a "light" trailer, say 4K lbs. I don't see a FEL, or backhoe in the pic what's the precise weight of what he's pulling?

If he only drives the entire rig less than 80 miles a year and drives it CAREFULLY and keeps his equipment light he's just pushing 12K, which is only 500 lbs over the max bumper pull "rating" for a Chevy 1500 LTZ and 700 lbs for the Ford.

I agree if his trailer weight is a lot more it increases the danger, but if his trailer is only 3,400 as Soundguy wrote

at one local trailer place.. they have 14k rated gn's in a range of 3400# to 4300#

he'd actually be within spec. And he's only driving 20 miles.

Personally I think he's off his rocker to get rid of that sweet red truck

 

[Beltman60]

and with the adding of airbags that would eliminate allot of the swaying

I think it's doable but if I had that truck already I would keep what ya got :2cents:

 

[powerstroke444e]

1/2 ton ride ??? I would get a 3/4 ton new ford with 17" wheels and your choice of motor no snow plow or heavy service packages or off road packages. Ie small rims more tire rides better. Or add full air ride to the rear of the truck to help the ride, not helper bags.

 

[Whitnel]

If you tow that little why don't you just pay someone to tow it every now and then?

 

[dodge man]

If you can afford it, I'd keep what you've got. It looks like a really nice setup and you won't see that much of an improvement in ride going to a 3/4 ton. Keep in mind many people think of the 2006 and early 2007 Dmax's as the holy grail of Dmax's.