How standard is a category 1 3ph?

[Dutch445]

i wonder if you can just turn around your sway anchors, (part no. 20 in the parts diagram), so the
loop is further away?
i agree the "handles" can probably go or be bent out of the way, they look like guards.

 

[miloman]

Yeah GEO has us newbies very confused.... I agree with LD1, the 20" we cannot figure out.
I'll try to convince my GF to bend the handles up. Let's see how much sledgehammer is needed here ;-)

 

[miloman]

i wonder if you can just turn around your sway anchors, (part no. 20 in the parts diagram), so the
loop is further away?
i agree the "handles" can probably go or be bent out of the way, they look like guards.

The sway anchors cannot be turned anymore, they're on maximum, and will not get any smaller. You can see in one picture, that the anchor is fully turned (did a small 'unturn' for the pic), and still the fitting is hanging down from the axle is attached to....

 

[Dutch445]

i was referring to that "axle" part you mentioned. it slides over a shaft and i was wondering
if you could reverse that part, i think it means removing a tire though to slide that shaft out.
I tried to show in this pic:

 

[miloman]

Ok, very clear now Dutch445! I'll have a look later (it's raining now....). I think the wheel has to come off to access the axle though. Means no quick change than back to the original config. Will let you know!

 

[LD1]

Personally I dont like the turnbuckle stabilizers on the inside. With them on the inside, EVERYTIME you change implements, you have to loosen them to get the implement off.

While turnbuckles arent the greatest thing on the market, I like my kubotas on the outside. Cause with the implement mounted, and stabilizers tight, you dont have to loosen them to take the arms off for a implement swap. And if the other attachments have the same pin-to-pin measurement, you dont have to adjust them at all.

If it were mine, I would just drill another hole in the lower arm and be done with it. It sorta looks like you already have a slight depression a litter farther out from the current hole. I would drill it right there:thumbsup:

 

[joshuabardwell]

Sooner or later, you're going to have to make a new hole in your tractor. Sounds like this is the time!

 

[94BULLITT]

Do the pins face inward or outward?

 

[XSKIER]

As most may not know, limited cat 1 hitches really don't like to go down to 20" cat 0 spacing. It's because the lower draft arms are short, formed, and lack the nice long swing arc of a 40 horse cat 1 tractor. Here is my cat 0 flail mower mounted on the limited cat 1 hitch of my 'R.

 

[94BULLITT]

You can get extra long pins for the lift arms. That may allow the tiller to work.

 

[npalen]

A CAT1 tractor normally has a male 540 RPM PTO output where a CAT0 normally has a female 2000 RPM PTO output. The Deere 2305 should have the normal CAT1 540 RPM PTO.

 

[Henri88]

Few years ago, when I bought my 2305, some of us were complaining of to much side by side swing. Most of us fix this problem by grinding of the tip end of one of the bolt that screw in the turnbuckle, the one with the small hole and the lock ring.That would be part 17 in the diagram on post 13. You have to grind it till you get to the tread. Do the same on the other turnbuckle. The down side is you lose the ability to lock the turnbuckle with the ring since there is no more hole, but this gives you the ability to pick up more slack and there is other ways to lock the turnbuckle. I just use a tie-rap from one turnbuckle to the other. Some people also fix their sway problem by turning the loop that's in the sway bar from the horizontal position to a vertical position. If you look at Dutch picture you can see his being horizontal. In the diagram, it is the eye loop that the nut and washer #35 and 34 screws on it. I was hoping to have a better picture of my set-up, but if you click on the picture it should oversize it. If you wish to see a picture with a better angle I could take one. Let me know. Hope you can understand all of this.

Henri

 

[miloman]

npalen, the 2305 has indeed a 540 rpm PTO. I tested it on the tiller, and the tiller turns fine on it.
Henri88, I get your point/tip, and wil remove the non-threaded parts of the bolts. I think with the frontier BB the buckles are also at max. I doubt if it will be enough for the tiller though. (Dutch picture was actually my 2305, where he indicated what to switch).

 

[mccann870]

turn the draft arms so the offset is to the middle all you have to do is pull the linch pins on the shaft and the carter pins on the lift arms. the only nuts that have to be removed are the ones that tie the turn buckle to the draft arm it will close the distance by about 6"

 

[miloman]

Ordered a hydraulic jack today (I own one, but it's still in my other house....),so tomorrow the work starts. Have to remove at least one rear wheel, because of the mower-deck-lift extension to that same shaft the buckles are on. I also had a look at a 2320 today, and saw 2 things:
- the arms the buckles are attached to seemed to be made of one piece instead of 2 on my 2305
- the eyes were in the right direction, and probably even more in the middle than the eyes on the 2305
If anybody could get me a part number for that one piece (with 2 eyes), I would appreciate it! I don't see it in the part catalog.... Picture enclosed (it's the part 23 attaches to, and axle 27 goes through). I figure it should also fit the 2305, and since the eyes are a bit further away from the arms.
I will also remove the lower lift arms and get a second hole drilled in both arms to attach the sway chain also further back.
When reinstalling I'll see if installing them vertically will also help.
Everybody thanks very much for bearing with me. I'll post some pictures of the end result when finished. Hopefully next week.
See that in the JD parts picture of the 2320 the eyes are also in the right direction, as opposite to the JD 2305 parts picture.... strange.

 

[XSKIER]

Seriously, modify the implement to fit the tractor. Do not modify the tractor to fit the implement.

 

[94BULLITT]

Seriously, modify the implement to fit the tractor. Do not modify the tractor to fit the implement.

I agree.

 

[Rockgod]

I agree.

Same here.

Why not remove/bend those tabs, then extend the mount? Just like the photo in post #29

 

[miloman]

Turned the attachments for the turnbuckles like Dutch544 showed in his (very clear!) and removed the piece with the whole in it inside the turnbuckle, and have been tilling (is that the right verb?) for 2 days now! No drilling done to the arms yet, as now I'm able to fix the attachment on the hitch. Also tried out new pallet fork, meadow aerator (is that correct?) and attachment for my trailer. So everything cool now, without modding (at least no drilling) the tractor. Next week I will test my frontier BB if I can still get it in the hitch.

 

[joshuabardwell]

"Tilling" is the correct verb for using a tiller, yes. Glad you got it all sorted out!

EDIT: This got me thinking about how general that verb/noun relationship is. You wouldn't say that you were "hamming" with a "hammer". LOL.