Any Feedback from Users of the New Tier 4 Tractors?

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I'm shopping for a tractor right now. I can get a Tier 3 Kubota (L3940, L4240 or L4740), but I'm seriously considering the new XR4046HC (cab model) from LS. I really like the LS, but it's a Tier 4 and I just don't know what I would be getting into.

I'm looking for feedback from anyone who has bought and/or used one of the new Tier 4 tractors. Any problems? Are they supposed to be harder and/or more expensive to run or maintain? Does the Tier 4 emissions system rob power from the tractor?

I hate being a guinea pig.

P.S.: Based on the quotes I've received, I can buy the Tier 4 XR4046HC a LOT cheaper than the Tier 3 L4740 cab Kubota. And I mean a LOT. Haven't done any real negotiating yet, though.

 

[LindenBruce]

You can get it cheaper because no one wants one LOL!!! I think it really depends on the strategy the manufacturer takes to implement the Tier 4 at that HP level will really decide on added costs to maintain and operate. I also don't know how that tractor compares to an R4047. Are they in different classes? If it just has a catalytic convertor and different fuel injection The cost to operate will prolly be zero. But if it has a Urea tank that WILL add to the cost of operating. B.

 

[WilliamBos]

I will take an SCR tractor over a cooled EGR anyway. They run cooler, are better on fuel, and slightly less complex that the latter. DEF is not too costly either.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

. . . I also don't know how that tractor compares to an R4047. Are they in different classes? . . . .

The XR4046 is the 2013 equivalent of the R4047 I think.

 

[LindenBruce]

Okay. Like everyone else's complaint LS' website is out of date. I found a pic of the 4046 and it looks like a slightly bigger tractor. But you can't tell for sure on a stand alone pic that's why I asked. B.

 

[Piston]

I'm interested to hear what people are saying about the new Tier 4 as well. I personally don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as many posts lead us to believe, but I'm not betting any money on it

 

[nvmyhd]

I spoke with one of the guys at the west coast hub. The Tier 4 will be regen cycle only no DEF.

 

[WilliamBos]

I spoke with one of the guys at the west coast hub. The Tier 4 will be regen cycle only no DEF.

Only under a certain HP, above will be SCR.

 

[Fastowl]

Not a tractor but a Bobcat S650 with an interim tier 4 engine. A 2011 model, 74 HP and I have about 400 hours on it. Not a bit of a problem with the machine so far.

 

[ozley]

Not a tractor but a Bobcat S650 with an interim tier 4 engine. A 2011 model, 74 HP and I have about 400 hours on it. Not a bit of a problem with the machine so far.

Not a tier 4 also.