CM, I don't think anybody though we was under his tractor constantly for 6 straight months and we all contradict ourselves in posts, hopefully, without even realizing it, I know a few of mine have been kindly pointed out to me. We type our thoughts a lot of the time instead of writing, reviewing and editing our posts and that leads to inaccuracies, but they don't mean a person is insincere or intentionally trying to device us. For instance, you were involved in one of my thread that took on a life of it's own where I was frustrated about my constant issues with my CK 30, but I wasn't a member of TBN when I owned my JD, hence my screen name. That error in your statement above doesn't mean anything other than we've chatted a lot about a bunch of things and they all get confused and we make mistakes.
From the time LaK joined TBN and wanted to contact Kioti directly about his issues, I advised against it. I told him the approach that I would take and told him I would get him past the dreaded "Connie" gate keeper if all else failed. Coming out of the gate so strong without following the proper path is probably a big factor in having problems resolving his current issues. That is how I disagree with how he is handling his tractor issues.
I don't know why you care if people slam Kioti. Do you work for them? People are all entitled to their opinions and they're based on their experiences. Maybe his opinion is justified based on his experience, I don't know.
Last point, yes, this is a tractor forum, but I've discussed just about every topic I care to and then some. I've learned to keep my mouth shut about some things and read other completely off (tractor) topic threads out of curiosity or interest. People post about everything here because it becomes a community to them. I don't know why you're attacking LaK for it (not just in this thread either)
KK, In your CK-30 thread you talked about your JD tractor and what it had been like with owning it, otherwise how would I know about you're even owning one? I referred to the general dilemma you had been having with your then current CK and previous JD.
Why do I care if people, this person in particular slam the Kioti brand?! Really, Ken? First, I don't work for them or anyone else but for myself.
Second a seemingly now starter solenoid 'inard' bolt does NOT make for a defective, 'lemon' tractor, nor does an ignition switch, or a minor hydraulic leak. These are all what gets repaired under the warranty, which we all pay for when we buy new.
Third, it is bad for potential new buyers who come here to see what people have to say about their tractors. remember, 'bad news travels fast?'. It's true and many may not give Kioti a second look. Ask yourself if you had been reading the posts of the person we're discussing if you would have been inclined to try a different model Kioti to solve YOUR problems with your undersized CK-30?
NOT one thing lak has posted about that actually pertains to his tractor is Kioti's fault, nor his selling dealer's nor the other numerous dealers he has involved in his, "I'm entitled to a new tractor delusional ravings."
The AG of any state would laugh their face off when seeing what he claims vs. the reality of the 'problems' with his 'lemon'. You said it yourself his approach to issue resolution is all wrong. No kidding- the results of his approach speak for themselves.
I'm not attacking anyone- that rhetoric is overblown and incendiary in this venue.
As stated, when he ends his diatribe about how he got burned from day one to now with his Kioti tractor, I will be done with discussing it too. People entitled to our opinions, right? Or is that selective people and their off the wall, based on no evidence whatsoever opinions?
Facts talk, everything else walks, or fades away.
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