Loaded Tires on a Bx

[bx2670]

After using my Bx 2670 a few hours plugging my yard and spreading fertilizer over the weekend, yesterday I got around to putting my turf tires on (came with r-4's) I found out the dealer had loaded them.I had no idea they would be that HEAVY!!!! I called today and he let me bring them to the dealership and he give me two new (rims & r-4's ) with just air in them.I probably would have not bothered to exchange if I didn't have the turfs but they ride so much better when mowing and like I told him I put on box blade with QH for weight when doing loader work with r-4's.I bet each tire was 100 lbs or more:shocked:

 

[Don87]

They are heavy when loaded. I loaded my turfs with Rimguard, and I love 'em.

 

[94BULLITT]

I have mine (R4's) loaded and I don't have a loader. I wanted all the pulling power I could get plus it makes it a little more stable.

What did they have in your tires?

 

[rockshaft]

I'm all for loaded tires, but i was disappointed how light mine were when i took them off to mount some spacers. I think they weighed in around 75lbs. Having paid for Rim Guard, i expected them to be heavier, it may be that they under-filled and/or overcharged me. Maybe i could add a little more, but i'd be afraid of the mess i might make.

 

[TripleR]

We have wheel weights on our BX2660 and loaded tires on our BX2200, still helps with traction and stability even with something on the 3PH.

 

[bx2670]

The salesman said water and methanol, would not rust rim or freeze in cold weather.Was just gonna be a pain when swapping rims back and forth is the reason I took them back to Dealer.

 

[sandyc]

My dealer says "he won't sell a tractor without loaded tires". He probably would but he is worried about center of gravity, traction, and FEL use if tires are not loaded. I have never had a tractor without loaded tires so I will take his word for it. I have never had a rim or tire failure either and that's using Calcium Chloride liquid as a fill.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I've had several BXs and none of them had loaded tires. Had turf on some and R4s on some. Have had some Bs with loaded tires and my one and only L3240 with loaded tires. Current B2620 FEL BH doesn't have loaded tires since it has BH but doing some FEL work in wet clay and it entered my mind as tires slipped some but may or may not have helped. Slick wet clay based dirt is slippery for traction.

 

[PhilY]

At first I didn't have my R4 tires loaded on my L3540. My thinking was to keep my tractors weight down as it already weighed 3400 # w/o FEL and I needed to drive across our yard. Let's just say that boy was I wrong. Sidehilling felt tipsy and on flat ground the tractor would spin the tires (in 2WD) if I was trying to even just scrape with the FEL or pull the RB. It was a pain and the thought was all this HP, but no real power. So, after a few days, the dealer came out to get the tractor and load the rears. Put 600 # in each tire. After doing this, the tractor seemed like a completely different machine. Tons of power and traction. Plus, the back end wasn't coming up like it did when using the FEL. Only when I have a heavy load do the rears still seem to come up, so I am building a ballast box for the 3ph that should take care of things. My reasoning for this is that when in 2WD with a full load up front, the rears still spin if trying to go up the slightest hill. This means the entire weight of the tractor is on the front axle practically; plus, the weight of the load I'm carrying. With the ballast box, it should save some wear and tear on the front axle by transferring some weight to the rear.

My dad has a bx model w/o any of the tires loaded. It works well for him, but I think it does because it's used mainly for mowing or plowing snow. However, the couple of times we have had to move around something heavy, it was fun trying to keep the rear end on the ground. In my tractor, I would definitely load the tires. I don't think loading is a must though, it just depends on the type of work you plan on doing.

Food for thought though and most may already know this...loading the tires will increase traction, but it doesn't put any extra load on the wheel bearings like wheel weights or a 3ph ballast box would. Wheel weights and such are supported by the axle, where as, liquid ballast is supported by the ground the tire is sitting on. If you're level, the liquid ballast increases traction, and if you're getting front heavy, it will act as if someone is pulling down on the rear axle.

 

[Don87]

The salesman said water and methanol, would not rust rim or freeze in cold weather.Was just gonna be a pain when swapping rims back and forth is the reason I took them back to Dealer.

The way I did mine after loading them was........I used my floor jack to raise it, rolled 1 tire over and adjusted the jack to get one bolt started, then worked jack to get a second(I ain't trying to hold a loaded tire in the air, LOL), then tightened it down. Then I did the same with the other side. These tractors are small enough that you can swivel the jack while it's in the air, so you can see the holes, and work the handle at the same time.

 

[94BULLITT]

The way I did mine after loading them was........I used my floor jack to raise it, rolled 1 tire over and adjusted the jack to get one bolt started, then worked jack to get a second(I ain't trying to hold a loaded tire in the air, LOL), then tightened it down. Then I did the same with the other side. These tractors are small enough that you can swivel the jack while it's in the air, so you can see the holes, and work the handle at the same time.

That is the way I did it on the 8N.

 

[xtruckerbob]

I have both R-4s and turfs for our 2670 and was thinking of loading the R4's. How much weight would I gain?

 

[94BULLITT]

I have both R-4s and turfs for our 2670 and was thinking of loading the R4's. How much weight would I gain?

It depends on what kind of fluid you go with. They hold 8.3 gallons.

 

[ultrarunner]

I went foamed filled for the BX rears... added weight and no more flats.

Noticed an improvement for stability, backhoe work and love not getting flats!

 

[snpower]

I went foamed filled for the BX rears... added weight and no more flats. Noticed an improvement for stability, backhoe work and love not getting flats!

Can you share more details please?

 

[ultrarunner]

Foam filling is an option offered at some tire shops..

I had to mine done in farm country outside Stockton CA.

Basically, the tire has a small hole drilled in the side wall and foam is pumped in through the valve stem.

The the tire needs to undisturbed to allow for the foam to set... a few hours.

Foam replaces the air... so the tire can never go flat.

The shop I used also recaps tires so I can bring the worn tires in and they will cap them at 50% cost of new.

Foam comes in several densities... I think mine are medium.

Foam adds weight which lowers the center of gravity so I noticed better stability on sloping ground.

I think I paid $125 each for my BX23 rears.

Foam is not recommended for the BX fronts... something to do with impact to the drive system over terrain.

 

[skyhook]

I have both R-4s and turfs for our 2670 and was thinking of loading the R4's. How much weight would I gain?

94BULLITT, says they hold about 8 gals, so figure about 80lbs per tire.

 

[RaydaKub]

It depends on what kind of fluid you go with. They hold 8.3 gallons.

Are R4's that much smaller than turfs? I put 11 gallons in my turfs and they aren't full by any means.

 

[94BULLITT]

Are R4's that much smaller than turfs? I put 11 gallons in my turfs and they aren't full by any means.

I found that number on rim guards website. Your tires are only supposed to be filled 75% full. The R4's, turfs, and ags are the same size on a BX.

 

[RaydaKub]

I found that number on rim guards website. Your tires are only supposed to be filled 75% full. The R4's, turfs, and ags are the same size on a BX.

Yup, I know that. Valve on top and I get a mix of air and washer fluid out. But I put in 10 gallons of fluid in them and it was still all air so I added almost a gallon of water too.