Outrage after NY paper publishes names of gun permit holders

[Grumpy Old Man]

Let me see if I got this right? The gumment now has easy access to all the information they need to confiscate licensed guns and a GPS map of how to drive to each house and take them away. What kind of "low life" leader would undertake such a endeavor?

YOU HAVE TO ASK ?:laughing: Ken How far are you from Knoxville and do you have a used 5 ' box blade for my 855 that won't break the bank ? let me know ! or a landscape rake ?

 

[mjarrels]

Everything seems to be public... you wouldn't believe the mail I get each week on retirement homes, folks wanting investment money, etc. Got a DWI (my bad) last year and within hours my mug shot was plastered in the local tabloids. My taxes are public, my investments are public and the list goes on.

mark

 

[ragkar]

The guy that published a rebuttal to the newspaper has received several emails from abused wives that are under court protection. They fear that publishing their secret address will expose them to harm from their former mates.

 

[MF1433V]

The guy that published a rebuttal to the newspaper has received several emails from abused wives that are under court protection. They fear that publishing their secret address will expose them to harm from their former mates.

Wow- hadn't even thought of that potential. How irresponsible of the media. They really should be ashamed. I have an urge to call the "mastermind" in this link and let her know! What Goes Around Comes Around ***** A.K.A. RULE FOUR

 

[MossRoad]

Finally, where on earth do you come up with the statement that you are more likely to be blown up by a mass murderer than killed by one with a gun? Other than Oklahoma I do not recall a major bombing mass killing of citizens by other citizens in this country in the past twenty years or more. In that time there have been multiple mass killings by gun.

According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century, just edging out knives, blunt objects, and bare hands, which killed 4.52 people per incident. Fire killed 6.82 people per mass murder, while explosives far outpaced the other options at 20.82. Of the 25 deadliest mass murders in the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century, only 52 percent involved guns.

Link to entire article Aurora Shooting: How did people commit mass murder before automatic weapons? - Slate Magazine

As for the newspaper article listing all the permit owners' names and addresses, even the Brady Campaign agreed with the NRA saying it was a bad bit of journalism.

 

[murphy1244]

They need to do what we did in Cleveland Ohio, Gun owners let it be known the names and addresses of writers.

 

[sweettractors]

They need to do what we did in Cleveland Ohio, Gun owners let it be known the names and addresses of writers.

That is the best idea I have heard so far! Ken Sweet

 

[dave1949]

They need to do what we did in Cleveland Ohio, Gun owners let it be known the names and addresses of writers.

So? What happened then? Is there a story there or not?

I write a column for a local newspaper, my name and email address are on each issue. My name is in my TBN profile, and the town where I live. I am listed in the local phone book. So far, no one has done or said anything to me that would cause the least bit of worry, whether they agree or disagree. I do worry some about retiredmgn who lives in the next town over.

Are you creating fear where none should exist? Sure, tomorrow I could be slain by some crazed person, but the chances that that happens because they know where I live are remote. It is much more likely that they are desperate for drugs, or the voices in their head told them to turn up my driveway for some reason that no sane person can comprehend.

 

[Biggreenavalanche]

They should also posts who DUI's and who's not paying their child support.

We've got a paper down here that publishes not only the two items mentioned above but all arrests and court results to include convictions Nol pros and plea deals...called the inquisitor...

 

[Biggreenavalanche]

How are you going to determine who's unbalanced? Mental health records are not available to the public.



They aren't treated differently. Those are public records and are available to all. However, you rarely see names of people with pilot's licenses or liquor licenses or driver's licenses published in the paper unless they did something wrong, are up for review, or are involved in an altercation.



You don't run a background check on the parents of every classmate that your child goes to attend a birthday party at, do you? No. You get to know the parents of your child's peers through interaction at school functions, sporting events, friends of friends, church, talks over the fence, by the mailbox, etc...These are things that you are supposed to ask a child's playmate's parents before you send them over to play unsupervised if its something you are concerned about. Do you ask them if they have unsecured steak knives, fireworks, gasoline and matches, too? No. You observe the parents and families of your children's friends and make judgements as you go.

Publishing the names and addresses of all the people that have a legal permit to carry a firearm will do absolutely nothing to prevent anything.

Take the case of the mass school shooting two weeks ago....

The firearms were legally owned by the mother, not the son.
He didn't use the gun show loophole to obtain them.
No background check would have caught him because he got the guns from his mother.
A waiting period to purchase would not have prevented it.
The assault weapons ban wouldn't have prevented it as there are literally hundreds of thousands of these weapons already on the market.
A ban on large capacity magazines would not have prevented it. He would have just carried more 10 round clips for any large caliber semi-automatic hunting rifle.
The woman had the proper permits. That made no difference.
The woman was trained to use the firearms, yet the son got them from her and killed her. Training made no difference.

With over 300 million guns legally possessed by citizens in the U.S. do you really think you can ever remove them from circulation? The guns are not the problem. Homicide is the problem. You are more likely to be blown up by a mass murderer than shot by a mass murderer.

Sick individuals have always been and will always be. They will find ways to commit homicide. Publishing the names of people that are concerned enough with their own personal safety to go through the proper and legal process to obtain a permit to carry a firearm for personal protection is just sensationalist journalism by a writer or newspaper trying to stir readership for personal financial gain.

Well said...