2014 Silverado/Sierra released

[Diamondpilot]

Hey, DP: Have you ever changed the oil in the EB truck? Get back to me on the placement of the filter for that one vs. the 5.3 will ya?

No, the only one I would work on would be my father's and he negotiated in all scheduled service for 5 yrs or 60, 000 miles.

Is it tough?

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

I think he's pretty knowledgable about some things, but those some things are beginning to diminish due to the obvious bias and hostile attitude that he has towards anything not Ford/BMW/Nissan.

He might be the ultimate alpha guy towing 450,000,000,000,0000 tons per month (he does remind us daily)...I don't care. For someone who does what he says, he sure does spend an inordinate amout of time on this board...Can't figure out how he does it all...Very impressive.

If his Fords/Nissans/BMW's are the divine second coming, he can believe it...I don't, I've had enough experience with all three to know better.

There were loose anti-GM biases before, now it it so blatent that I can't take it anymore...What ever good he has to say has been destroyed in my book now...And I don't want to hear anymore about the "balilout"...Ford's hands aren't clean either...Just low hanging fuit...Nothing more, nothing less.

Time for my own rant...Just sayin'

I have stated on here many times I am disappointed with the BMW. The Nissan and Ford have both been about trouble free as they come.

If you need to tell yourself the GM bailout is ok. Hope you sleep well. Do some research and you will see just how bad it is. Ford did it the right way, plain and simple.

As far as the time I spend here. I usually transport 3 or 4 days a month. In the spring and fall it gets real busy for a couple weeks. There have been days where I have moved 10 boats in a day. My pilot job averages 12 days a month. For example tomorrow I depart my home airport at 9:30 for a 1:40 flight to Shreveport. We then sit from 10:50 (time change) till 6:30n almost 8 hours of nothing to do, at which time we depat for home, another 1:35 flight home. I do about the same on Wed and that is my week. So I have plenty of time to get you guys going and give some sound advise.

By the way, yesterday I did a 4 wheel brake job on my MIL's Taurus. Turned all 4 disc and new pads. It a 2010 with 57,000 miles.

Chris

 

[Storm56]

Tires were not spinning. Its a rough finish grooved concrete ramp. Only way you will spin any vehicle's tires is if you get them wet on the moss.

I have seen the same thing happen to a Ford F350 diesel but in that case the truck started hopping.

In both cases the trucks were overloaded but the F350 was about 8,000# over when the gas GM was about 3,000#

Chris

Grooved concrete that will not allow a tire to spin, except of course for the vaunted Ford which has so much power it hopped. Give it a rest.

Has anyone told our highway builders about this miracle concrete which will not allow tires to slip? Should save many lives if we use it on our roads.:confused2:

 

[timswi]

I have stated on here many times I am disappointed with the BMW. The Nissan and Ford have both been about trouble free as they come.

If you need to tell yourself the GM bailout is ok. Hope you sleep well. Do some research and you will see just how bad it is. Ford did it the right way, plain and simple.

As far as the time I spend here. I usually transport 3 or 4 days a month. In the spring and fall it gets real busy for a couple weeks. There have been days where I have moved 10 boats in a day. My pilot job averages 12 days a month. For example tomorrow I depart my home airport at 9:30 for a 1:40 flight to Shreveport. We then sit from 10:50 (time change) till 6:30n almost 8 hours of nothing to do, at which time we depat for home, another 1:35 flight home. I do about the same on Wed and that is my week. So I have plenty of time to get you guys going and give some sound advise.

By the way, yesterday I did a 4 wheel brake job on my MIL's Taurus. Turned all 4 disc and new pads. It a 2010 with 57,000 miles.

Chris

I sleep just fine thank you. Ford's CEO begged for the bailout, in front of Congress (wonder why?).....Give it a rest.

 

[jejeosborne]

As for an ecoboost, look for the 5.3 to match or better the ecoboost. I do not want turbos on a gas engine. The ecoboost has not proven itself,when they will last 350,000 miles minimum like the LS engines do, then it will be credible. Until then, it is a yuppy engine for a yuppy truck.
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I have an ecoboost and it is far from a "yuppy truck". Hard to utilize all that power in the city. Yes some Yuppies buy the best available anything and don't use it to its full potential. What motor is in your GMC so I can label you and your choices.

Grooved concrete that will not allow a tire to spin, except of course for the vaunted Ford which has so much power it hopped. Give it a rest.
Has anyone told our highway builders about this miracle concrete which will not allow tires to slip? Should save many lives if we use it on our roads.:confused2:

Yes they have tested such sections of highway in Illinois but the sound level and vibration level was too high. They also tested using different angles and textures. They put up signs to warn drivers of the test pavements. I would imagine it would also be bad for freeze thaw and snow removal as well. Excellent choice for boat ramps though as the traction is excellent.

 

[Markcuda]

Is this what DP meant about tire spin?

 

[timswi]

Is this what DP meant about tire spin?

The genius in that truck is as smart as the idiot in the Viagra commercial pulling the horse trailer.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I sleep just fine thank you. Ford's CEO begged for the bailout, in front of Congress (wonder why?).....Give it a rest.

You are right but when he heard the stipulation's he said no. Smart move.

If you read up on this subject the US government owns about 500, 000, 000 shares of GM at $35 per share. Its traded for the last year at around $23 per share. We are stuck footing the bill.

Its not over though. Give them 10 years and history will repeat itself.

Chris

 

[Storm56]

Yes they have tested such sections of highway in Illinois but the sound level and vibration level was too high. They also tested using different angles and textures. They put up signs to warn drivers of the test pavements. I would imagine it would also be bad for freeze thaw and snow removal as well. Excellent choice for boat ramps though as the traction is excellent.

I would hope that you realize that I was being somewhat sarcastic to make a point. I fully understand that grooved concrete on a boat ramp is there to improve traction. I would also hope that any reasonably knowledgeable person would know that ANY brand of todays pickups with 340+ horsepower would shred their tires on such a surface, especially when in low range with a 410 rear and that such a vehicle would have no problem pulling a 15,600 pound boat out of the water.

 

[timswi]

You are right but when he heard the stipulation's he said no. Smart move.

If you read up on this subject the US government owns about 500, 000, 000 shares of GM at $35 per share. Its traded for the last year at around $23 per share. We are stuck footing the bill.

Its not over though. Give them 10 years and history will repeat itself.

Chris

Say what you want but if the bailout wouldn't have happened Ford and all of it's suppliers would have sunk...Economics 101..Ford isn't as innocent as you say...

Give it a rest...it's gotten waaaaay old by now.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I would hope that you realize that I was being somewhat sarcastic to make a point. I fully understand that grooved concrete on a boat ramp is there to improve traction. I would also hope that any reasonably knowledgeable person would know that ANY brand of todays pickups with 340+ horsepower would shred their tires on such a surface, especially when in low range with a 410 rear and that such a vehicle would have no problem pulling a 15,600 pound boat out of the water.

No way, not with that much tongue weight and grip. On asphalt maybe in a diesel truck but not on this rough concrete. You are going to snap a drive shaft or something. I don't think I could do it with my F350 diesel putting down 500 plus HP and about 800 ft lbs. That boat has 1, 800# of tongue weight on the bumper.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Say what you want but if the bailout wouldn't have happened Ford and all of it's suppliers would have sunk...Economics 101..Ford isn't as innocent as you say...

Give it a rest...it's gotten waaaaay old by now.

Belive the media hype. It was a vote getter. GM is not even in Forbes top100 employer.

This was nothing more than a union leverage.

Talk economic's. Try getting paid $.03 on the dollar for parts shipped prior to GM after the bailout. Thats fair...

Business 101 should have went like this. Bankruptcy, restructure, drop lines that don't make you money, come back leaner and smarter. Competition gains market share

Instead we get to pay for the same old thing.

Chris

 

[Storm56]

No way, not with that much tongue weight and grip. On asphalt maybe in a diesel truck but not on this rough concrete. You are going to snap a drive shaft or something. I don't think I could do it with my F350 diesel putting down 500 plus HP and about 800 ft lbs. That boat has 1, 800# of tongue weight on the bumper.

Chris

Sorry DP, I have been around boats all my life. When the trailer is backed in the water deep enough to load the boat, the tongue weight is not all there, the water is supporting a good portion of it. You punch the throttle to the floor in low range with the type of truck I listed and the tires will spin and /or the boat is coming up the ramp.

Of course that is not a procedure I practice or recommend. Yes a drive shaft could break, but there is no guarantee of that.

 

[TheGoose]

It's not in a very convenient place for sure. It does have a nifty little place for the oil to drain down into the pan, only problem was that I had the pan under the wrong hole!! Made quite a mess. I'm not a fan of the filter placement nor the extra shrouding under the EB engine. Takes about 5 minutes just to get to the oil plug, you got to remove a bunch of shrouds first.

I just love how you harp and harp on all of GM's failures while completely omitting much of Ford's such as the 600-lb Gorilla that was the 6.0 /6.4 PowerStroke Debacle as well as the 5.4 spark-plug fiasco. If you put any MFR under a microscope you will find faults.

No, the only one I would work on would be my father's and he negotiated in all scheduled service for 5 yrs or 60, 000 miles.

Is it tough?

Chris

 

[joe t]

Regardless of all this, I hope these newer trucks aren't plaqued with problems. Can't get a new Diesel truck I like so I'm taking good care of my 5.9 Cummins. The new Powerstroke is said to be ok and the MPG will hopfully go up in the Cummins next year when they change the motor some.


Hope these GM trucks and F150s also do well without any reminder of the 1970-80s domestic autos. These new fangled diesels really have a lot of useless crap attached to the motor... Hopefully they figure out how to do it better over time.

 

[Storm56]

I just love how you harp and harp on all of GM's failures while completely omitting much of Ford's such as the 600-lb Gorilla that was the 6.0 /6.4 PowerStroke Debacle as well as the 5.4 spark-plug fiasco. If you put any MFR under a microscope you will find faults.

+1 - Could not have said it better myself!

 

[Storm56]

Regardless of all this, I hope these newer trucks aren't plaqued with problems. Can't get a new Diesel truck I like so I'm taking good care of my 5.9 Cummins. The new Powerstroke is said to be ok and the MPG will hopfully go up in the Cummins next year when they change the motor some.


Hope these GM trucks and F150s also do well without any reminder of the 1970-80s domestic autos. These new fangled diesels really have a lot of useless crap attached to the motor... Hopefully they figure out how to do it better over time.

True! I will not be getting rid of any of my pre-tier IV diesels anytime soon.

 

[deerehunter/operator]

[I just love how you harp and harp on all of GM's failures while completely omitting much of Ford's such as the 600-lb Gorilla that was the 6.0 /6.4 PowerStroke Debacle as well as the 5.4 spark-plug fiasco. If you put any MFR under a microscope you will find faults.[/QUOTE]

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[crashz]

Easy on Chris guys. I'm pretty confident in fact that he is telling the truth, as he had mentioned this incident a long time ago. Even with his distaste for GM, he's not the type of guy who has a data base of GM lies on tap.

My thought is this: That truck had 4wd and the Gov-Lok, which locks in at least three of the four wheels. Lets say bone stock, but if it has a cheap tuner, installed, even better. Guy backs in, hooks up, and pulls forward easy unitl the weight of the boat is on the trailer, and then stops. He then punches it (from a stand still) and shifts the gear shift into "1" in that order. Tow / haul in or out, does not matter in my experience. Torque management limits the amount of power. The driver probably punched it, didn't go anywhere, and never looked at the tach. Probably didn't get past 3000 rpms. This happend on my 2004 on weird occasions, but if the wheels had any momentum, even the slightest roll, TM was never an issue. Only from a dead stop. Tow/haul seemed to have no effect. 2004 and 2005 were the first years of the drive-by-wire and TM and there was all kinds of complaints about them. Most were fixed by a simple software re-flash.

BTW- a F550 with plow drove past our office with an incredible plume of blue-white smoke. I couldn't tell the year, as it was driving sort of away from me. Not trying to bash Ford, but just utterly amazed at the amount of smoke. Like a landfill fire. I hope the guy makes it home OK.

 

[deerefan]

Easy on Chris guys. I'm pretty confident in fact that he is telling the truth, as he had mentioned this incident a long time ago. Even with his distaste for GM, he's not the type of guy who has a data base of GM lies on tap.

My thought is this: That truck had 4wd and the Gov-Lok, which locks in at least three of the four wheels. Lets say bone stock, but if it has a cheap tuner, installed, even better. Guy backs in, hooks up, and pulls forward easy unitl the weight of the boat is on the trailer, and then stops. He then punches it (from a stand still) and shifts the gear shift into "1" in that order. Tow / haul in or out, does not matter in my experience. Torque management limits the amount of power. The driver probably punched it, didn't go anywhere, and never looked at the tach. Probably didn't get past 3000 rpms. This happend on my 2004 on weird occasions, but if the wheels had any momentum, even the slightest roll, TM was never an issue. Only from a dead stop. Tow/haul seemed to have no effect. 2004 and 2005 were the first years of the drive-by-wire and TM and there was all kinds of complaints about them. Most were fixed by a simple software re-flash.

BTW- a F550 with plow drove past our office with an incredible plume of blue-white smoke. I couldn't tell the year, as it was driving sort of away from me. Not trying to bash Ford, but just utterly amazed at the amount of smoke. Like a landfill fire. I hope the guy makes it home OK.

No problems personally with Chris. Just anti-gm rant getting tiresome. As mentioned before, he gives solid advice and helped me a ton when I was buying my 2006 F250. He does live in an area that was impacted greatly by the bailouts unlike myself. I just tune it out but tune in to his advice as it is pretty solid, especially with trailers. My 05 Silverado did something like this once. It felt like it was bogging down and hit 3k rpms with no results. I figured tourqe management was doing its thing.