Painting what you built

/ Painting what you built #11  
Be careful with the hardener. I was under the impression the iso-cyanates in it can be deadly without an external supplied ait source. Is this correct or is this hardener different? Are guys using the hardener with or without external supplied air?
 
/ Painting what you built #12  
I have never used more the. A 3m filtered full face mask that I have. I'm still here and no twitch to speak of. ;-)
 
/ Painting what you built #13  
Be careful with the hardener. I was under the impression the iso-cyanates in it can be deadly without an external supplied ait source. Is this correct or is this hardener different? Are guys using the hardener with or without external supplied air?

the valspar hardner specifies a exposure / concentration level.

I use a good fitting paint mask with organic cartridges and chemical prefilter cartridges for vapor, and solvents. I also paint outside.. and preferably in a 1-4mph breeze.. no more than that as too much overspray
 
/ Painting what you built #14  
Be careful with the hardener.
Yeah buddy :thumbsup:

I was under the impression the iso-cyanates in it can be deadly without an external supplied ait source.
Yup .... and any old compressor ain't gonna work as a fresh air source ....

Nasty stuff .... super-glue your lungs ....

Is this correct or is this hardener different?
Last I looked (year or so ago), it was ....

Are guys using the hardener with or without external supplied air?
Good question ....
 
/ Painting what you built #15  
I use a supplied air respirator. Hardeners (isos) are bad for you. A good respirator that fits correctly supposedly works better than nothing, but I have a beard. There are some good supplied air respirators for about 400 dollars. The payback is not having to buy the expensive organic cartridges (also your lungs will pay you back). Great for sandblasting also. The nice supply of cool air is refreshing and easier to breath as you don't have to pull your air through the filter.

The brand I have is Hobbyair. It is identical to one that cost almost twice as much, but doesn't carry the NIOSH certification you would have to have if you worked in a "buisness".

Check out some of the industrial coatings from some of the major paint companies (ppg, dupont, etc.) They arent cheap but no where near the price of automotive paints. They can mix your colors, tough as nails, covers well, and takes the weather much better. You would need the paint, hardner, maybe an accelerator, and the correct thinner. Proabably $150 bucks for a gallon, but it would paint an entire tractor easily. As much work that goes into paint prep, it is not that much more for a job that will last.
 
/ Painting what you built #16  
i've heard plenty good things about hobby air.


I have a buddy that used an old milsurp gas mask.. the kind witht he snorkle nose that has a tube running down to a can on your hip. he routed that to a tube, and ran it to a canister vacume out the window of his shop... used the prefilter cartridge onthe canister vac intake, and put a slight restricotr in the hose and a vent in the rear of his tyvek hood.

works neat.. :)
 
/ Painting what you built #17  
I have an old wall mounted hand dryer from a public bathroom ("old school" porcelin coated) that I removed the heating element from and used an old funnel to "force" the air into a 1.5" sugical tube, then off to my reclaimed Scott mask from an old firefighting rig. Works awesome, and CHEAP. Bought hte FF mask at the flea market. In my new shop I put the hand blower in an adjacent room and plumbed it into the shop via PVC pipe. I used to sandblast redwood signs INSIDE my Mom's garage, INSIDE an old girlscout tent (she lived "in town"), this gave me lots of fresh cool air......

Just a thought, you should NEVER breathe air from a compressor (oil contaminated)

Ironwood
 
/ Painting what you built #18  
I like this product Stop Rust POR15 . It drys fast and you cant scratch it with sand paper. Metal must be clean and you cant spray it over old paint, but it will last forever.
 
/ Painting what you built #20  
i'd etch it with phosphoric acid first..
 

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