Neighbourly Thing...

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Lloyd_E

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Did the neighbourly thing today. A new neighbour(actually friend) bought the property next to me and to fulfil his dreams bought a new Kubota tractor to play with. 20-25 hp thing... He has managed to get it stuck and unstuck without embarrassment... until today.

So I get the call and drive down the lane and road to his property and Yes! He is stuck.

I hook on and pull... at least I think I did... didn't feel like it.

Pics to follow... we shared a laugh... all in good fun. He is rethinking the size of tractor.
I told him not to sell this unit but to buy an additional one. Always good to have a second tractor... just to pull the other one out!

Lloyd
 
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Did the neighbourly thing today. A new neighbour(actually friend) bought the property next to me and to fulfil his dreams bought a new Kubota tractor to play with. 20-25 hp thing... He has managed to get it stuck and unstuck without embarrassment... until today.

So I get the call and drive down the lane and road to his property and Yes! He is stuck.

I hook on and pull... at least I think I did... didn't feel like it.

Pics to follow... we shared a laugh... all in good fun. He is rethinking the size of tractor.
I told him not to sell this unit but to buy an additional one. Always good to have a second tractor... just to pull the other one out!

Lloyd

Sounds like you're making fun of thousands of members that have 20-25 HP tractors. So.... he got it stuck because its only 20-25 HP?
 
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No... not at all. I gut stuck and managed to get unstuck several times. At some point your luck runs out. His did and mine may at some point.

And he may have got stuck due to the size. He even acknowledges that. He now realizes that his tractor is undersized for the things he wants to do. Like he says "I now have a very expensive lawn mower" - he does have a mower deck for the unit too... and a chipper, BH etc... and I am jealous. Would love to have it as a mower!

Lloyd
 

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I would get a set of R1 tires and rims to use in those conditions and the winter.
 
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samandmax,

I will suggest that to him. He may go that route for a quick fix.

Thanks.
 
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You just have to accept you can get stuck no matter what kind of tires or the size of your tractor. We park all of our tractors if at all possible when it's muddy.

Sure is great to have a second tractor or good neighbor to help you out.:thumbsup:
 
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Sounds like you're making fun of thousands of members that have 20-25 HP tractors. So.... he got it stuck because its only 20-25 HP?

We all make fun of 'the other side', you folk with the tiny tractors make fun of the monster tractors as well from time to time - it's all in good fun, i like to smile at both sides. :)

Now, he got stuck for 2 reasons - a bit of inexperience, and the wrong choice in tires.

A lot of those small tractors are sold with the wrong tires. Those construction type are not made for traction, they are made to wear well on highway use.

Get good tires on that little tractor, and it will be a whole different animal.

With more experience and proper tires, it would be very hard to stick a light tractor with a loader & backhoe - it should be able to work itself out of 95% of the stuff it can get itself into.

Lot of small tractor owners have no experience in using the things, and they make poor choices on the accessories - like tires. I see that on here all the time, questionable recommendations on tires or properly weighting a loader tractor.

Make a person smile a bit. :)

Now, when I burry a big farm tractor, I do it along the county blacktop of course, and the tractor will be sitting there in the mud for all the neighbors to see, as well as the muddy tracks for a week or 2.... And they all make sure to have a good laugh at my expense.

Gotta chuckle along with them whwen I'm the dummy. :)

--->Paul
 
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Bigger tractor just means you get stuck deeper in, like pickups with 4WD.
 
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You just have to accept you can get stuck no matter what kind of tires or the size of your tractor. We park all of our tractors if at all possible when it's muddy.

Sure is great to have a second tractor or good neighbor to help you out.:thumbsup:

Exactly. Experience is a great teacher.

We find humor in these situations because we have made that call/ walk of shame to ask for help after pushing past the limits. Its just part of learning. I'd be disappointed to not get a little good natured ribbing in the process. It'd be a sign that my neghbor and I did not know each other well enough.
 
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We all make fun of 'the other side', you folk with the tiny tractors make fun of the monster tractors as well from time to time - it's all in good fun, i like to smile at both sides. :)

Now, he got stuck for 2 reasons - a bit of inexperience, and the wrong choice in tires.

A lot of those small tractors are sold with the wrong tires. Those construction type are not made for traction, they are made to wear well on highway use.

Get good tires on that little tractor, and it will be a whole different animal.

With more experience and proper tires, it would be very hard to stick a light tractor with a loader & backhoe - it should be able to work itself out of 95% of the stuff it can get itself into.

Lot of small tractor owners have no experience in using the things, and they make poor choices on the accessories - like tires. I see that on here all the time, questionable recommendations on tires or properly weighting a loader tractor.

Make a person smile a bit. :)

Now, when I burry a big farm tractor, I do it along the county blacktop of course, and the tractor will be sitting there in the mud for all the neighbors to see, as well as the muddy tracks for a week or 2.... And they all make sure to have a good laugh at my expense.

Gotta chuckle along with them whwen I'm the dummy. :)

--->Paul



Paul,

See... there is humour in reality! Now I won't go into why he didn't hook up his BMW X5
and pull himself out... he did mentioned he thought about it a couple of times before... but managed to get unstuck!

Two winters ago I was dissing another neighbour after he bought a 60hp bota.
He was the first one I called when I got stuck in a simple small drainage ditch along my lane.
For the life of me I could not get out... needless to say I praised him and his shiny new toy - tool!

I like the fact you left it there for a while just because you could - lol.

Stick - ever hear of the Corb Lund band and their ode to stuck 4x4's? Great song.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDY6bWT5oTM]Corb Lund - Truck Got Stuck - YouTube[/ame]


Lloyd
 
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If you don't get stuck from time to time, either you live in a very dry location or ain't tractorin' much. It goes with the territory. A little ribbin' is expected. :)

I even joke about myself when I get stuck. :p
 
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I can easily understand getting stuck but I don't understand how a light tractor with both FEL and BH cannot self rescue. He should have been able to use the BH to lift up the rears and push or then stick some logs or rocks underneath. Likewise with using the FEL to crawl out by dumping the bucket while on the ground.
 
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I've stuck mine (43hp) so bad the FEL couldn't lift it free of the suction the ground had on it ... I put 70 hp on it and when it started to break gound I thought it too was going to get sucked in ... I also had concerns of pulling the little rascal in half !!!
 
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I've stuck mine (43hp) so bad the FEL couldn't lift it free of the suction the ground had on it ... I put 70 hp on it and when it started to break gound I thought it too was going to get sucked in ... I also had concerns of pulling the little rascal in half !!!

I can easily believe that but looking at the photo in this case the tractor looks more like it doesn't have traction rather than being sucked into a mud pit. There looks to be 5-6 inches of space between the operator platform and ground so the tires couldn't be sunk much more than up to the wheel itself.

Maybe the new tractor owner has never been taught how to self rescue.
 
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IT,

A combination of both... behind the tractor was a soupy mud hole. He did have some logs in place. He didn't have enough reach on the BH to push himself out. Also it is a HST tractor and he couldn't use the front bucket to pull himself out. I questioned him on this - and not knowing HST tractors took his word for it. If you or others could fill me in I will certainly pass it along to him for the next time. It seemed to be a challenge to get the revs correct and the ability to use the bucket at the same time.

A buried mine to the frame with the backhoe on. I was in such a muddy/soupy area that the BH could not push me and the bucket could not pull me out when curling it. What I did in the end was to put it in low range, 1st gear, set the revs up a bit and got off the tractor. It took a while but actually crawled out of the hole. I promptly took it home and parked it for the day - figuring I got off easy!
 
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All part of the experience. I used to get stuck pretty often. Wife has pulled me out with different 4x4 vehicles over the years. The worst time I had to call my neighbor and he came down with his JD and had me out in short order. Of course the best time I had to call him I had a the tractor piece of a tractor-trailor stuck. Between neighbors JD and my Kioti we got him unstuck. I even posted the pics here on TBN :)

David
 
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IT,

A combination of both... behind the tractor was a soupy mud hole. He did have some logs in place. He didn't have enough reach on the BH to push himself out. Also it is a HST tractor and he couldn't use the front bucket to pull himself out. I questioned him on this - and not knowing HST tractors took his word for it. If you or others could fill me in I will certainly pass it along to him for the next time. It seemed to be a challenge to get the revs correct and the ability to use the bucket at the same time.

A buried mine to the frame with the backhoe on. I was in such a muddy/soupy area that the BH could not push me and the bucket could pull me out when curling it. What I did in the end was to put it in low range, 1st gear, set the revs up a bit and got off the tractor. It took a while but actually crawled out of the hole. I promptly took it home and parked it for the day - figuring I got off easy!

I use the FEL and bucket on my HST the same way as on our geared units to get out of the mud.
 
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'The' incident by the road I mentioned - I was plowing, bigger cabbed tractor, 4 bottom plow. Hit a small wet suck spot - it just sucked me in to the frame, and being a little new at things back then, I let it spin a bit.

I lifted the plow all the way up, and it was still in the ground. Really wedged in & pon so much we couldn't unhook it. Took not one but 2 tractors to pull me out.

That was 30 years ago, think a couple neighbors still remember seeing that....

--->Paul
 
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If you don't get stuck from time to time, either you live in a very dry location or ain't tractorin' much. It goes with the territory.

Yeah, sort of like the saying for motorcyclists...there are 2 kinds of riders, those that have dumped and those who are going to. Likewise for tractors and getting stuck.



A lot of those small tractors are sold with the wrong tires. Those construction type are not made for traction, they are made to wear well on highway use.

Get good tires on that little tractor, and it will be a whole different animal.

With more experience and proper tires, it would be very hard to stick a light tractor with a loader & backhoe - it should be able to work itself out of 95% of the stuff it can get itself into.


I dunno, I've gotten good and stuck with R1's...the more aggresive lugs can just dig you in further and faster if you're not careful. When you're in soup, there's not much traction to be had no matter what you've got for tires. R4s may not have the traction, but being wider they have a bit more flotation.

Agree that lack of experience can make the situation worse. Sometimes you've got to know when to stop spinning and come up with a plan B.
 
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TripleR said:
I use the FEL and bucket on my HST the same way as on our geared units to get out of the mud.

Me too. I have never heard that HST was a problem and cannot imagine why it would be.

It is certainly possible to get so sunk in soupy mud that these tricks won't work but with a relatively light tractor like a B2620 you'd think the axles would need to be almost in the soup before it became impossible to break out. I'm guessing the combination of new owner and helpful convenient neighbor made a tow easier than self rescue in this case.
 

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