Camera for new barn

[farm guy]

Hi All,

A question for you, I just put up a 20 x 50 steel building to hold my tractor and work shop. I have installed a camera to keep an eye on things. The building is over 450+ feet from my house. It is color during the day and black and white at night. It comes in two modes one with a bright red led that flashes and the other no lights except from the IR emitters.

In which mode do you think it will be more effective? There is a alarm on the doors and a LED sensor light that comes on if they get close. The red light can easily be seen from my house. So any ideas??

Farm guy

 

[rockinmywaypa]

When playing sports I preached that a shot on net that was prevented from taken was better than having to stop a shot on the net. In your case if the red light causes a thief to bypass your property then I think that that is as good or better than having to prevent an actual breakin. I vote for having the red light showing. A lot of these cameras load to the internet and even if yours doesn't the thief won't know and will be scared from it.

 

[Cat_Driver]

use black electric tape over the led light - problem solved.

 

[woodlandfarms]

I would say it is close to 6 of 1, but I would, and do, try to keep the cameras hidden. Reduction in vandalism and if someone is savvy, they will steal your recorder if they know it is there

Secondly is false triggers. 99.99 of our triggers are related to bugs flying by the camera or bats, once in a while a deer. These falsies will drive you insane or put you in great shape running back and forth.

I say keep the warnings off.

Carl

 

[newbury]

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In which mode do you think it will be more effective? There is a alarm on the doors and a LED sensor light that comes on if they get close. The red light can easily be seen from my house. So any ideas??

Farm guy

Location? Crime level in your area?

Are you worried about juveniles throwing McDonalds trash on your lawn or a Uhaul coming in and cleaning you out?
A shovel missing or everything gone and the building destroyed?

If the crime rate is high I'd hide the camera, moderate, let it blink. It will be a deterrent to the undecided, pros will get around it. If you let it blink get some more fake cameras for the corners etc to act as a deterrent BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE, EVEN US.

Also find someway to get the camera view to your computer or a monitor in your house.

For instance I've got a $17 motion alarm to alert us when the dog wants to come in from outside. I was sick and tired of having the door scratched. I've got a Foscam wireless IP camera trained on the area. I can sit in rooms with no view and see if the alarm went off because the dog is waiting to come in, if she just swung by the door and went away, or a leaf interrupted the beam.

Occasionally I move it to look out the front windows when I'm working in the basement to monitor the front door.

 

[5030]

If I was that paranoid that I considered having a security camera a requirement of owning, of all things, rural property, I'd move into an apartment.

If someone is intent on pilfering you, it's going to happen, camera or not.

Have trouble sleeping at night??

 

[BigBoyinMS]

If I was that paranoid that I considered having a security camera a requirement of owning, of all things, rural property, I'd move into an apartment.

If someone is intent on pilfering you, it's going to happen, camera or not.

Have trouble sleeping at night??

Personally, if it happens, I want a chance of finding my property AND the mud sucking, two legged pieces of chit that took it. In fact, it's a toss up if I would rather prevent a theft or catch the thieves in the act.
It doesn't matter where you live, there's always a chance you'll be hit someday. WHY NOT have cameras and a chance of prevention or a chance of recovery? If that's paranoid then doing nothing is having your head in the sand.

 

[rsewill]

Personally, if it happens, I want a chance of finding my property AND the mud sucking, two legged pieces of chit that took it. In fact, it's a toss up if I would rather prevent a theft or catch the thieves in the act.
It doesn't matter where you live, there's always a chance you'll be hit someday. WHY NOT have cameras and a chance of prevention or a chance of recovery? If that's paranoid then doing nothing is having your head in the sand.

In most cases I would rather catch the thief than get my property back.

 

[tractchores]

I've got cameras on my property, they largely give me pictures of animals paying a visit in the night, but also give me an idea of what's going on when I'm away. It's a good peace of mind when I'm away and I can see if someone is on my property for some reason. I use ones that are infrared also, there is no light, though the IR LED's glow very faintly. Mine connects to my wireless network and senses motion and records when something is moving. It's very effective. I do find that any light near the camera attracts bugs, which then sets off the motion sensor, so that may be something to consider with a red light. I don't post any signs, and don't believe any are required (unless you record sound). If you want to increase chances of catching a thief after the fact make sure you're positioned to get and read license plate numbers and/or get a good face shot. Mine are mostly so if I hear a noise at night I can quickly get a view of the property to see what it was (usually some kind of animal).

 

[Dr_Zinj]

I recently heard of a case where people had pictures or video from a security camera in their house of it being robbed. The police wouldn't do anything about it because there wasn't any signage warning people the property was under security surveillance. Might be something to look into.

And I thought various American police departments were messed up.

 

[zzvyb6]

I have cameras outside and inside. I want everybody to know they are there. I can view them anytime from the internet or the TVs. Signs are there as well as audibles. Make no mistake, they are cheap insurance. The LEDs tell the perps they are not fake cameras.

Meeting all types of 'visitors' at the door or at the barn or 1/2 way up the driveway before they are aware of you is a LOT of Fun. "What do YOU want"? always stops them in their tracks. The scabbard on the golf cart is also free awareness.

Of course, occasional unscheduled gunfire also is cheap advertizing. The 50cal alerts the whole township... Lookin' for trouble? You'll find it here !

Scrappers and dog thieves seem to be the latest local 'problem'.

 

[PapaPerk]

All this camera talk has me interested. :laughing:

Any good websites that discuss cameras, etc. Or a good vendor that sells them? Thanks! :thumbsup:

 

[bucktaker]

x2 papa

 

[newbury]

Any good websites that discuss cameras, etc. :thumbsup:

TBN, we've had a LOT of discussions here. Search is your friend.

security camera site:tractorbynet.com

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...UTF-8&q=security+camera+site:tractorbynet.com

 

[ciderman]

I recently heard of a case where people had pictures or video from a security camera in their house of it being robbed. The police wouldn't do anything about it because there wasn't any signage warning people the property was under security surveillance. Might be something to look into.

That's how it is here in PA. Back in '07, my shop got completely cleaned out. It was all caught on tape, but completely inadmissible because I didn't have signs posted warning the scumbags.

 

[rsewill]

That's how it is here in PA. Back in '07, my shop got completely cleaned out. It was all caught on tape, but completely inadmissible because I didn't have signs posted warning the scumbags.

But were they convicted anyway???

 

[woodlandfarms]

Papa and buck, it is not cheap. Figure at least 400 for 4 cameras , cables and recorder. I did it for less but I cobbled deals as I had an idea and experience for what's I wanted. Us made systems are around 800 entry level.

Look at Costco. The.q-see brand us on sale and does well for them. These are all hard wired systems with a dedicated recorder. You can hook a camera to an old computer and save cash, or go fancy and buy wireless cameras ( but they still need power so they are not truly wireless)

If it were me I would buy a qsee and then purchase another higher quality camera to be my main camera.

Hope this helps.

 

[tnmike]

That's how it is here in PA. Back in '07, my shop got completely cleaned out. It was all caught on tape, but completely inadmissible because I didn't have signs posted warning the scumbags.



That is the most f_cked up law I ever heard of. I wonder why it doesnt apply to traffic cams? I wonder if they had burned the place down or murdered someone if would have been admissable. Laws like this are why vigilante justice is on the increase.

 

[tractchores]

I don't know if it is state by state, but audio is inadmissable without consent or a warrant. I believe video without audio is, which is why most security cams don't do audio.

 

[varmint]

I just saw, a couple of weeks ago, a security camera- digital recorder system for under $200. 4 weatherproof cameras, motion activated, with infrared, and a 4 channel recorder that would hold many hours of data. Looked like the real deal, with all the bits and pieces you'd need to get up and running. An online electronics dealer called Newegg.com