Backhoe Are small backhoes worth the $??

/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #1  

El Wood

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I'm currently in the process of purchasing a JD 2000 series tractor and was thinking about getting a backhoe. I would use it to maintain the area around a one acre pond and plant some trees. My dealer says their about $5,000. Are these small backhoes worth the money? Anybody have one?
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #2  
I have one of the smallest... it's a BX23 and the Backhoe is one of the reasons I bought my Kubota...

It has proven to be very useful... both for digging and moving items... especially with the thumb.

Getting a full size hoe to some of the locations would not have been possible.

That said... a small bucket does have limitations.... it will pack if the adobe soil is to moist and can have a hard time when it sets like concrete in the summer...

If your use is one time... might be better off renting the biggest hoe for the job.
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #3  
I'm currently in the process of purchasing a JD 2000 series tractor and was thinking about getting a backhoe. I would use it to maintain the area around a one acre pond and plant some trees. My dealer says their about $5,000. Are these small backhoes worth the money? Anybody have one?
The short answer is yes.

Although you can rent one...........do that on a Saturday afternoon at 5 pm when your sewer backs up. If you have your own, your set.

Want to plant trees on a sunday morning......after the wife decides on saturday afternoon...........that she wants that particular tree or shrub.

If you can afford the luxury....get it now.

I couldn't but wish I could have. I'm currently having septic problems, and a french drain around my house would help immensly. I've already used my FEL for jobs that were more suited to a small hoe.
 
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I got one with my b2710, and by now it has paid for itself. I have had numerous drainage jobs around the house and garage, when my culvert was overflowing two years ago at 2 AM I was able to dig a ditch across the drive way to get the water back into the creek, saving my house from flooding. Removed stumps and dug holes for pet burials. I removed half a hill for fill in my back yard. I have a 12 inch bucket with no thumb (wish I had one). I don't use it often the last two years but it is ready to go every winter in case my culverts back up
 
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I have Bradco on a New Holland TC33D and I use a lot around our property. It gets used for removing stumps and transplanting trees and and other plants. I am about to dig a 800' trench for water and power to the house I am building. The choice to buy this particular tractor was because it had a backhoe with it. So far I am loving it.
 
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Mine is more in the "medium small" category, but it is a wonderful tool to have at my disposal.

The only problem is that now I want a mini excavator, a 5 to 10 yard dump truck, and a lot of other things that DW says are not going to be on my Christmas list.
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #7  
I'm currently in the process of purchasing a JD 2000 series tractor and was thinking about getting a backhoe. I would use it to maintain the area around a one acre pond and plant some trees. My dealer says their about $5,000. Are these small backhoes worth the money? Anybody have one?
If your getting a tractor to maintain the area AROUND a 1 acre pond and plant SOME trees than you obviously have money to get good toys.

My Woods BH70X backhoe ran about $8K with all bells, whistles, taxes etc.. My Kubota was about the same or less. I've only got a 1/4 acre lot, where it's parked. However I still have big plans to play with it on several hundred acres I've got in Mississippi. But I convinced myself I had the money for the toy.

My friends at work were buying motorcycles and boats I bought a tractor and backhoe. SWMBO doesn't like boats, and I've got motorcycles.

Was it WORTH the money? I probably could have gotten about 7 acres of land for the same $$, or 100 dinners at Outback for my family.

Looking at the JD site the 46 BH is about $7K and seems comparable to my BH70X. Go for it.
 
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I use mine quite a bit. It's probably on the tractor more than any other attachment. But now I have the same problem as CurlyDave.

The only problem is that now I want a mini excavator, a 5 to 10 yard dump truck, and a lot of other things that DW says are not going to be on my Christmas list.
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #9  
I wouldn't wanna be without a backhoe of some sort. Too much trees rocks and french ditches to do.
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #10  
I have been looking for a BH for my JD and it is pretty hard to find a used unit so if you have the option to buy with a tractor I would highly recommend you get it now.

A lot of people of said that i should look at a used Mini Excavator so i have been looking around but if you find one that doesn't need a lot of work you are looking at 15K of better so a BH attachment for the intermittent user makes sense to me and my check book.

I talked to one contractor who is selling his and he told me that the mini's work good if you are going to be working on fairly hard surfaces but he has found that if you take it onto soft or muddy soils the track systems are severely underpowered and tend to get stuck, hence the reason he is selling. I would be using it on the farm to dig ditches etc so his comments were a big eye opener and turn off for me.

Hopefully this helps,
Dave
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #11  
Mine is more in the "medium small" category, but it is a wonderful tool to have at my disposal.

The only problem is that now I want a mini excavator, a 5 to 10 yard dump truck, and a lot of other things that DW says are not going to be on my Christmas list.


Useful? Definitely. Although I did eventually get a mini excavator and now the bh very rarely gets used..

It probably won't get a whole lot of hours because it does the job quickly. I have several attachments which get very little use because in 15 minutes they do what would take hours without them.

For what the OP is considering, make sure you understand how easy or hard it is to put it on and off.

Ken
 
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I had the 6.5 Rhino on my old Kioti and loved it. I kinda miss it now for the small jobs. I went bigger to have more reach and oomph to pull out large rocks. Like others in this thread I think I want a mini ex now to replace the 580K.
 
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Let me play the devils adv. for a moment.
It seems that all the people that have answered this thread own a small hoe and are trying to justify there hoe setting out behind the barn rusting just waiting on something to dig so they can justify the cost.
The way I have it figured is if you pay let's say $7000.00 for a small hoe for your tractor and I can rent a midsize hoe for $600.00 a week delivered I would need to work my tractor hoe at least 3 mounth's stright every day to justify the price ( Let alone bending the arm, breaking the teeth off, busting a hydro hose and don't forget the deprecation for age also the strange look's from the wife and kid's when you tell them you can not afford more than one tooth brush).
Renting a hoe mean's when I'm done it goes back to the owner I don't need to store it, service it, work on it, watch it rust while my wife say's are you ever going to use that ugly thing setting out there in the way.
Your right when you need one they are real handy but keep in mind that is what we all said about our wive's.
Just giveing you all something to think about the next time your out there in the snow and mud mashing your finger's hooking up those handy tractorhoe's that your dealer said " there easy to hook up anybody can do it".
Hey you'all have a good day !!!!!
Remember PT Barnum said "THERE'S ONE BORNED EVERY DAY"
 
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Let me play the devils adv. for a moment.
It seems that all the people that have answered this thread own a small hoe and are trying to justify there hoe setting out behind the barn rusting just waiting on something to dig so they can justify the cost.
The way I have it figured is if you pay let's say $7000.00 for a small hoe for your tractor and I can rent a midsize hoe for $600.00 a week delivered I would need to work my tractor hoe at least 3 mounth's stright every day to justify the price ( Let alone bending the arm, breaking the teeth off, busting a hydro hose and don't forget the deprecation for age also the strange look's from the wife and kid's when you tell them you can not afford more than one tooth brush).
Renting a hoe mean's when I'm done it goes back to the owner I don't need to store it, service it, work on it, watch it rust while my wife say's are you ever going to use that ugly thing setting out there in the way.
Your right when you need one they are real handy but keep in mind that is what we all said about our wive's.
Just giveing you all something to think about the next time your out there in the snow and mud mashing your finger's hooking up those handy tractorhoe's that your dealer said " there easy to hook up anybody can do it".
Hey you'all have a good day !!!!!
Remember PT Barnum said "THERE'S ONE BORNED EVERY DAY"


You've rented a mini excavator ...... spending seven grand in rental fees to do all that work around your place.

I spent seven grand buying a backhoe to do the work around my place (on my schedule, not the schedule of the rental yard), but when I'm done, it is still worth five grand if I decide to sell it.

Just a different perspective, I reckon.

A backhoe transforms my tractor into a totally different animal, with a whole bunch of new capabilities. After having one (well, actually two), I would have a really tough time being without one.
 
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I am in the same category as CurlyDave and JDFire....now that I have the backhoe, it would be sweet to have a small dump truck to complement it.

But then again, a skid steer/mini x/dumptruck combo would be pretty sweet...maybe one day my ship will come in..
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #16  
Mine is more in the "medium small" category, but it is a wonderful tool to have at my disposal.

The only problem is that now I want a mini excavator, a 5 to 10 yard dump truck, and a lot of other things that DW says are not going to be on my Christmas list.
.

i know that feeling. i looked at mini-ex's before i bought my hoe, the 3x price tag killed the deal for me..
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #17  
Having a backhoe will increase you popularity with your neighbors a bunch.:laughing:
 
/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #18  
I've quite honestly used my BH a couple times a month for the last two years. A foundation, drain pipes, ditches, culverts, holes for plants, stumps, roots, rocks, logs (love the thumb)... you name it. With the limited FEL digging ability of smaller/lighter tractors I also find that the fastest way to dig what/where I want is often to dig with the BH and then carry off the spoils with the FEL.

I dug the foundation and built this shed with a 2305 TLB. I wish I had taken one good picture of the hole before I poured the slab, but these are all I have. On the low side I dug through the topsoil, on the high side I dug about 4.5' deep, and the pad is 20'x20' (plus another area almost equal in size for the gravel parking in front). I guess I'm trying to show that the BH is not only a great swiss-army knife addition to a CU,T but also can be used to do substantial work with a little time. I'd guess this took me 2 solid days of digging. The thing is, I didn't have 2 solid days with my work schedule so I did it in partial days over several weekends... As others have pointed out, this is one way owning really shines over renting.

As you can see from the picture, I have since upgraded from the 2305 TLB to a 1026R + 260BH (I really needed the position control), but honestly I think of the 1026R as the 2305 mark II. *grin* Getting another backhoe with the 1026R was a no brainer for me.

I think the BH is easily the next handiest thing on my tractor after the FEL (w/ Artillian's forks) and it gets almost as much usage/time as the rest of the implements combined. That said, the land plane is a miracle on my gravel drive. I really had no idea at first what I was getting into with 1800' of drive. =)

my 2c...
 

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/ Are small backhoes worth the $?? #19  
I'll play devils advocate in a different direction:D

And this is just my opinion and what I decided to do:

For starters, I wanted a BH. Several reasons. First, I have probabally 60 or so white pines around the house that are past their prime and slowly dying and bolwing down. When they are down, I want the stumps out.

Second, a 1/2 or so acre pond is in my near future and I wanted something to maintain it with once I get it dug. (NOT digging it with the BH), just want to maintain once dug.

Third, I have gotten into a bunch of stuff where the FEL on the little kubota just wasnt strong enough, or didnt lift high enough.

So I was faced with a choice. Spend ~7k on a backhoe attachment for the tractor, or just buy a backhoe. (oldie but goodie).

I choose to but a complete unit. Sure it is more upkeep, more maintenance, can get into tight areas ,and you have to be mechanically inclined, BUT...for the same money, I got a hoe that will do 10x's the work. And a FEL that will lift over 2 TONS:D

A lot of the decision was made easy after dad got a Ford 4500 w/15ft BH. And getting to run that, just digging some holes to burry old cement blocks and stuff, I realized that there was no way I'd be happy with anything smaller or less reach. So I went one model bigger. :thumbsup:

And another good thing about having a huge BH that is over 9 tons, I cant trailer it. So that rules out "buddies" wanting "favors":D
 
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I had never owned or operated one until my recent John Deere purchase from my neighbor ... it came with a JD 49 BH ... I thought I've got no use for it ... I even advertised it for sale ... BOY WAS I WRONG !!!!

I have found more use for it than one can imagine ... Thanks Dave for not making an offer !!!!

And thanks to my wife ... she said to keep it.
 

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