Comparison Kubota 4240 vs Deere 4120 -- Why big price diff?

[tpetty]

I've lurked here for awhile, but I need to get serious about buying a tractor. I've only got 15 acres, but am hoping to convince the neighbor to eventually sell me 20 more. Main uses will be bushhogging, driveway maintenance, trail maintenance (wooded ravines). It sounds like I need around 35 PTO hp for a 6 foot bushhog, so that's the general guide I used at looking at models.

I went to both the Kubota and Deere dealers today.

The Kubota dealer had a few that he thought would work. These are all HST with loader.

4600 (arriving soon, not in yet) $23k
3940 $25k
MX5100 $25.8k
4240 $28k

Any of these stick out as too little/too much machine, or a particularly good deal?


The Deere dealer only had one 4000 series tractor on the lot.

4120 -- Also hydrostatic, loader, did have one rear hydraulic. $33k

To me, the stats on the Kubota 4240 and the Deere 4120 are pretty similar. Both are the "upscale" version, similar hp, etc. Is it purely the Deere name that adds $5k?

 

[tpetty]

The 3940 and MX5100 are about the same price. I guess you trade more upscale bells for power between the two.

 

[murphy1244]

Good question...

 

[Deere Dude]

To me, the stats on the Kubota 4240 and the Deere 4120 are pretty similar. Both are the "upscale" version, similar hp, etc. Is it purely the Deere name that adds $5k?

Maybe the Kubota name makes it cheaper :laughing:

 

[trook]

You mentioned that the deere 4120 was hydrostatic. What about the Kubota? That will CERTAINLY cost more.

 

[tpetty]

No, those were all hydrostatic quotes.

 

[trook]

The quote on the deere sounds high. You may want to check with another dealer. 2 years ago, I got my 4320 with a MX6 cutter for less than that...

 

[harp]

Are the loaders equal? I have a 4120 and could not be more pleased with it. Lot of tractor for the money.

 

[IslandTractor]

To run a six foot rotary cutter you really need only 30hp at PTO (5hp/ft) so you could save some bucks by backing off a bit. Kubota L3940 would certainly do the trick. Not sure what JD model. Kioti DK40se would save a few thousand more as would equivalent Mahindra.

 

[LD1]

I agree that the deere quote sounds high, so check around on that.

As to the kubotas, I'd wait until you lay eyes on the L4600 before you make the decision. It is an economy model that doesnt have all the bells and whistles of the Lxx40 series, but you get a lot of tractor for the money that way:thumbsup:

So only YOU can decide what is important, the bells and whistles, or a no frills machine for less money. Kinda like when buying a car...do you spend the money for a leather loaded up every option in the book car, or just the basics. It is personal preference only.

That said, I'd opt for the MX or the 4600 because I perfer a no-frills machine myself. And those are ALOT of tractor for the money:thumbsup:

 

[powerpace]

I've lurked here for awhile, but I need to get serious about buying a tractor. I've only got 15 acres, but am hoping to convince the neighbor to eventually sell me 20 more. Main uses will be bushhogging, driveway maintenance, trail maintenance (wooded ravines). It sounds like I need around 35 PTO hp for a 6 foot bushhog, so that's the general guide I used at looking at models.

I went to both the Kubota and Deere dealers today.

The Kubota dealer had a few that he thought would work. These are all HST with loader.

4600 (arriving soon, not in yet) $23k
3940 $25k
MX5100 $25.8k
4240 $28k

Any of these stick out as too little/too much machine, or a particularly good deal?


The Deere dealer only had one 4000 series tractor on the lot.

4120 -- Also hydrostatic, loader, did have one rear hydraulic. $33k

To me, the stats on the Kubota 4240 and the Deere 4120 are pretty similar. Both are the "upscale" version, similar hp, etc. Is it purely the Deere name that adds $5k?

The paint color.

 

[Martian]

I've lurked here for awhile, but I need to get serious about buying a tractor. I've only got 15 acres, but am hoping to convince the neighbor to eventually sell me 20 more. Main uses will be bushhogging, driveway maintenance, trail maintenance (wooded ravines). It sounds like I need around 35 PTO hp for a 6 foot bushhog, so that's the general guide I used at looking at models.

I went to both the Kubota and Deere dealers today.

The Kubota dealer had a few that he thought would work. These are all HST with loader.

4600 (arriving soon, not in yet) $23k
3940 $25k
MX5100 $25.8k
4240 $28k

Any of these stick out as too little/too much machine, or a particularly good deal?


The Deere dealer only had one 4000 series tractor on the lot.

4120 -- Also hydrostatic, loader, did have one rear hydraulic. $33k

To me, the stats on the Kubota 4240 and the Deere 4120 are pretty similar. Both are the "upscale" version, similar hp, etc. Is it purely the Deere name that adds $5k?

I did a 'Build your Own" with the JD online configuration. Looks like he knocked your price down 1%, or $500. If that's all he's willing to negotiate, the Kubota is a no brainer. If the JD dealer gets his head out of his @ss and is willing to negotiate to the normal 15%, then your talking comparables. 15% off of $33.5k is 28.5k. Your in the same ball park now. Find a dealer that's willing to deal, though. Whoever your talking too, wasn't.

 

[bigbull338]

i own a MX5100 HST 4x4 w/LA844 quicktach loader.an if i was you id buy the MX5100 you priced at $25,800 in a heartbeat.if your even thinking about JD your paying for the green paint.for the price of that JD you could buy a 7040 kubota.

 

[Mark Page]

It's very simple, green paint is outlandishly expensive. Wait 'til you have to have it serviced at $80.00/hr.
Although you do get the prestige and priviledge of owning a high and mightly John Deere tractor.
I priced them when I bought my new Massey. Same specs and another $5,000.
Buy the kubota.

 

[crazyal]

When I was shopping the JD dealer didn't even want to talk to me. He did a basic answers to any questions and didn't even bother getting out of his chair. I think they make their living off of larger ag tractors and are happy with the people who walk in and pay what they are asking because of the colors. BTW I really like the JD green (even painted the spare room JD green :laughing and yellow but for that kind of price difference, go with the Kubota.

That being said I think the Kubota HST+ transmission is head and shoulders above the rest. NH has the next best thing. Now that I own the HST+ the price of the JD would have to be cheaper, by quite a bit, before I would even look at it. Even now I wouldn't buy the MX5100, a very nice tractor, because it doesn't have the HST+ transmission. Ask the dealer to show you how it works or watch the videos at Messick's website.

 

[nwalabama]

My dealer priced a 2012 4120 hydro with 400x loader at $29300.
Local Kubota quoted higher than your dealer. Drive them both.
The JD has a two pedal hydro set up where the Kubota has
a one pedal style more like a trolling motor. See which you like.
I ended up buying a used JD 4120 for a third less.

 

[jlbart]

Also, remember to consider how much weight of the tractor. Sometimes too big is too much; depends on what you'll use it for.

 

[DKCDKC]

I use a JD 3038E bought at under $18,000 to run a 5-ft bush hog, boxblade a mile long gravel drive, push snow, drag logs, move dirt and more. It has a 38 hp engine and seems fully capable for the task. I am delighted with the purchase. I checked the orange tractors and found prices ultimately very similar for the same size and features. The JD financing gave it an advantage over Kioti and such. But my final decision hinged on factors such as dealer support. When you buy a tractor, you will probably own it for a long time. Having a dealer who has a good shop and expert technical staff is extremely important in my book. It certainly can be the tie-breaker between similar tractors of different color.

 

[High Brook Hills]

Check around but I found the MX5100 to be an interesting tractor. In fact, it was my third, and very close third, choice. Price won out so i bought my second choice and we have been VERY happy with the Case Farmall 60 (I got a screaming deal on one). If not for the price on the Case I would have bought the MX5100.

Sit in the unit and drive it a bit before you pull the trigger! You might be surprised! Also, with hills and up and downs you want to watch out for tipping! Width, height. Check on how these feel to people. Mine is a bit tippy and needs the rear wheels in the fully maximum extended position before I am happy.

 

[RollingsFarms]

One thing my John Deere dealer has over any other dealer of another make is a mobile service. They come to your house and do the maintenance on your tractor right in your yard. I get this done once a year as well as have ten service my 910a and I save money in the end actually. They only charge $60/hr labor and have both tractor and mower done within that hour. The guy actually pulls around a HUGE trailer that's basically a shop behind a ford f-450. They have any part and fluids your machine could ever need on there. Saves me time by not having to take my machine in myself and wait for days to get it back, not to mention I don't own a trailer big enough to haul my tractor so tracking one down is a pain. Deer is also good about sending you coupons in the mail as I've gotten all kinds of coupons for free stuff from cleaner, filters, percentage off of oil, tool box, etc.